[TheForge] Slack tank...POL OT

peter fels & phoebe palmer artgawk at thegrid.net
Wed Dec 22 13:55:22 EST 2010


Off center forge ( Grant Sarver) offers an impressive one,,but it's 
understandably pricey.
You can wrap any shape of induction coil that suits it ,appeared from 
the demo.


On 12/22/2010 10:36 AM, Andrew Vida wrote:
>
> James Binnion wrote:
>> On Dec 22, 2010, at 6:03 AM, Andrew Vida wrote:
>>> You may be right, who knows... depends on whom you believe.  There
>>> are claims that about 100 independent trials have produced
>>> "interesting" results.  I am not doing it so I cannot say.
>> I dont know either Andy but given the simplicity of the experimental
>> setup the crux of the problem seems to be in measuring any kind of
>> fusion byproducts. If there is indeed anything going on it is finicky
>> beyond belief as it seems to be unmeasureable by anyone in a
>> repeatable fashion. So Occam's Razor would suggest there is nothing
>> there. I doubt there is any deep dark conspiracy on this, the lure of
>> cheap power will always draw the gullible to pay some researcher or
>> another who claims to found the secret of cold fusion but somehow
>> there are never repeatable positive results.
> As we have both said, who knows?  But they claim statistically
> significant increases in tritium, that from a woman whose career is said
> to have been devoted to tritium detection, using industry accepted
> detectors.  Either it is happening or they are lying.  Ineptitude is a
> possibility, but very remote IMO, again assuming the bios are not faked
> or exaggerated.
>
> The inconsistent results may be due to some subtlety in conditions that
> is as yet unidentified.  ONce again, assuming the players are on the up,
>    it would seem to me to be worth pursuing in case such a subtlety
> exists and can be understood such that consistent results are possible.
>    THe potential value is this is way too big to give up on, just  yet.
> AFAIK paltry sums have been invested to date when compared with other
> endeavors.  Keep at it and remain hopefully sceptical.
>
> Methinks I will investigate this Lattice group.  Now I am curious as to
> what they are about.
>
> Speaking of energy sources, does anyone here use induction coils?  For
> some apps they appear ideal.  I am wondering if they can be arranged
> such that there is open space along the coil wall to accommodate odd
> shapes.  Anyone?
>>
>>
>>
>> James Binnion jbin at well.com
>>
>>
>>
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