[TheForge] Slack tank...POL OT

[Andrew Vida]

peter fels & phoebe palmer wrote:

> Sure hope you are right.

	I hope THEY are. :)

>>   The other question, of course, is how
>> will government move to make personal reactors illegal for people to
>> possess.  Best guess will be the tritium issue - hazardous waste.  Too
>> much $$$ and power at stake to let people become energy independent. We
>> would have to put up one hell of a fight on that front, but IMO it would
>> be worth the bloodshed.
> Bloodshed for electricity against an overwhelming adversary?  Forget 
> it.  Need a better strategy.

	Desperate, scared people don't think about such things.  They act in 
reflexive resistance to dying.  Such people are far more dangerous than 
you might think, material superiority notwithstanding.  Unless less of 
course you just don't give a shit and murder them all because it is more 
convenient.  Given what I see these days in the eyes of the Bush's and 
Obammy's of the world, it would no longer surprise me to see it come to 
pass.

>> Imagine having a car that ran for 50 years without ever needing
>> refueling.  That is the promise of LENR, if it can be made practical.
>> I'd be willing to bet that it can be.  Interference is the real issue,
>> moving forward.
> Can't make a profit on a 50 year car.

	The availability of ubiquitous free energy would change the status quo. 
  One thing you need to be aware of is that not all corporations are 
evil as your words seem to indicate.  There are many companies out there 
for whom profit is an important, yet secondary purpose to their 
existences.  I would also warn against viewing profit as evil.  It is 
nothing of the sort.  That all aside, practically free, nearly clean 
energy will change everything, assuming the mob calling itself 
"government" doesn't squelch its introduction.

	Tesla was working on this idea.  When he died his body was literally 
not yet cold when FBI raided his place and took all his notes.

Some at the top of that particular food chain are not in the mood to 
share.  They may not, however, be able to keep that genie bottled up. 
Thank god, people are creative and have a strong penchant for tossing a 
hearty "fuck yourself" at those who would hold them back.  It is that 
penchant that leaves me with what small hope I still hang on to for the 
human race.

> The auto and power and oil industries would fold...and they wouldn't 
> allow that.

They would not fold.  Auto industry could still build cars as they now 
do.  The 10-20 year service life of the cars would end with the reactors 
recycled.  Converge the automobile power applications such that the 
reactors become commodity items and get used over and over.  The cars 
remain as they are, just not burning oil.

Gasoline and diesel represent , as I recall, a mere 9% of the industry's 
output... or maybe 7%.  We will not be weaned off of oil for at least 
another 25 to 50 years, barring the arrival of space aliens who will 
either save us from ourselve of eat us as hor's d'oeuvre.

The power industry as it exists might well go down.  Boo hooty hoo.  The 
pressures to allow such devices would be enormous.  Refusal to allow it 
could get a lot of people hurt.

>>> Hardly advocating giving up the sparks, but think we need to be
>>> considering the whole cost of burning coal.
>> Right now we have no other choices.  Take heat away from people in
>> winter on a large scale and see where that gets us.
> Natural gas heats our asses just fine.
>   Wish i had it here. local propane monopoly sticks it to us.

We have wells, so we have unlimited free gas, which is a great blessing 
especially since we are broke.  But tomorrow I will hear from 
Boots&Coots whether they will hire me and if so, we won't be broke no 
mo'.  Still, I have to build a large gas forge now so I can take 
advantage of the 35PSI line. :)