[TheForge] Cap and trade

Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer artgawk at thegrid.net
Fri Nov 6 18:48:54 EST 2009


Just like there were folks who didn't give up blacksmithing when it 
became obsolete, There will probably still be some small die-hard coal 
miners scratching for specialty niche markets like us....maybe.

Bob Ehrenberger wrote:
> Justin,
> 
> The problem isn't just whether they regulate blacksmiths.  If they shut down 
> the coal industry we will see the affects indirectly through supply and 
> price changes.
> 
> It's kind of like steel.  They don't make steel for the guy that gets a few 
> hundred pounds every month or two.  They make it for the factories that buy 
> it ten tons at a time.  Once the factories in an area shut down the steel 
> supply dries up.
> 
> Once they convince the factories and power plants to convert to "clean" 
> fuel, what happens to the coal supply?  Thats assuming they will even sell 
> to small operators like us.
> 
> Robert Ehrenberger
> Shelbyville, Mo.
> eforge at centurytel.net
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Justin Fisher" <justinf at pixelations.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 8:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Cap and trade
> 
> 
> Bob Ehrenberger wrote:
>> I was wondering if any of you have any information on how cap and trade 
>> will
>> affect blacksmiths?  It sounds to me that the goal of the bill is to force
>> industry to quit using coal by taxing it to death.  The Missouri power
>> companys (REC) seems to have worked out a deal, I think that is the trade
>> part where if you own and maintain forests it offsets the carbon credits
>> needed to burn coal at the power plants.
>>
> I doubt your forge will put out 10,000 tons of CO2 a year!  (That looks
> to be the quantity that triggers regulation).
> And it also looks like it applies to power-generation utilities, which a
> blacksmith's forge is not.
> 
> So I think we're safe!
> 
> --Justin Fisher
> Finally read the bill (whew!)
> 
> 
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