[TheForge] Drilling angles etc/ now sulfur

[Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer]

Goodness..Hadn't realized it was so variable..thanks Bruce.

Bruce Freeman wrote:
> I'm working from memory here.  I cannot find the allotrope I recalled
> (a linear polymer of sulfur - but I might misremember) in either the
> CRC Handbook or on Wikipedia.  But this article will give you an idea
> of the complexity:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotropes_of_sulfur
> I suspect that what I saw was pi-sulfur (see table) formed after
> lambda (i.e., molten) sulfur is held hot.  I have no sulfur to play
> with, but may pick some up out of curiosity.
> 
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> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer
> <artgawk at thegrid.net> wrote:
>> Bruce, does the sulfur turn red once it's achieved a specific
>> temperature, and does it stay that way once it's cooled?
>> What are the cooled mass's properties?  pf
>>
>> Bruce Freeman wrote:
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> Wonderful information.
>>> The "creamy" consistency of the melted sulfur suggests to me that it
>>> had not undergone rearrangement from the yellow S8 to the  red poly-S.
>>>  Interesting.
>>> Careful with the roofing application.  As you mention, sulfur is not
>>> fire resistant.
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>> Garden sulfur is just sulfur for gardens.  Do not confuse the fines in
>>> coal with sulfur, thought there might be a lot of the latter in the
>>> former.  Some fines can be burned by wetting them to a putty or thick
>>> paste.  They'll coke up as a solid lump.  But other fines are just
>>> dirt.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer
>>> <artgawk at thegrid.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi Bob;
>>>>
>>>> Bob Ehrenberger wrote:
>>>>> Peter,
>>>>> I had never heard the term "garden sulfur" before. What is is used for in
>>>>> the garden?
>>>> It's used to acidify alkaline soil.
>>>>> The reason I'm asking is someone gave me some coal that they found in a shed
>>>>> on a farm that they just got. I tried it out, and it is really nasty stuff.
>>>>> I could barely get it to burn in the forge because of all the fines.  It
>>>>> doesn't coke up like good coal, the fines just go to the bottom of the fire
>>>>> pot and clog things up.  So I sifted the fines out and the chunks burned (so
>>>>> so). Finally I mixed the chunks in with good coal and could get a pretty
>>>>> decent fire out of it. It's not great but I have a 55 gal drum of the stuff
>>>>> that I need to use up and I'd rather burn it than just throw it away.
>>>> I once saw Bruce Northridge take similar coal and wash it in a tub of
>>>> water, leaving the fines behind, with success. Someone else had to clean
>>>> it up.
>>>>> Any way I was wondering what to do with the fines. When I saw your post, it
>>>>> gave me hope that it might actually be good for my garden, depending on what
>>>>> it does to it. So is high sulfer coal dust safe for the soil? Or is it only
>>>>> good for certan types of soil?  And what would they be?
>>>> Coal varies a lot in bonus ingredients, mercury among them..I'd sooner
>>>> use it as pothole filler than put it in a garden.
>>>> My friend Ed Nater is one of the foremost experts on the question if you
>>>> really want an in depth answer.pf
>>>>> Robert Ehrenberger
>>>>> Shelbyville, Mo.
>>>>> eforge at centurytel.net
>>>>>
>>>>> ----Original message----
>>>>> From: Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer <artgawk at thegrid.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Drilling angles etc/ now sulfur
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Bruce;
>>>>> I've used sulfur a number of times successfully to set steel into stone
>>>>> and it lasts indefinitely as far as i know.
>>>>> I don't recall it's turning red when molten though.
>>>>> I have used garden sulfur. There used to be a huge pile under a chute at
>>>>> a local refinery and no one minded if i filled 5 gallon buckets with it.
>>>>> It was selling for about $10/# then.
>>>>>
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