[TheForge] LG 25 with stuck clutch.

[robert hensarling]

A cupie doll?  I don't know what it is, but I'll take three of four of them
:o)  I'm glad it worked Marc.  The other guy is correct about oil collecting
grit, but that's the least of my worries when BS'ing.  Before each run, I
wipe down the 100 and 250 with dirty washed rage, then I oil up everything
really good, and oil is running down everywhere.  That's when I figure it's
time to forge and hammer :o)  I'm a woodworker by trade, and I can't even
keep my shop floor clear of sawdust, so having some grit on my LG's isn't
such a bad thing to me.  We all have our methods of work, and our hero's
that lead us through the work.  The late Dave Manzer (sorry for the
misspelled name earlier)has been my hero from the beginning, and even in his
death, I find myself trying to follow his suggestions and methods.  On the
other hand, there certainly isn't a thing wrong with having a machine that's
spotless from oil, except where needed, I just don't operate that way, and I
seem to be able to live with myself regardless.
rh 


4326 East Main
Uvalde, Texas 78801
WWW.Mesquiterocker.com 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of marc3rd
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:40 PM
To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
Subject: Re: [TheForge] LG 25 with stuck clutch.

Give that man a cupie doll! Once I got it to break loose (wasn't easy).I was
able to get some oil in between. So I held the ream from moving and squirted
several ounces of oil while the pulley went round. She is purring like she
used to.
Thanks so much . really appreciate it
take care
marc



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From: "marc3rd" <marc3rd at marc3rd.com>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:59 PM
To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [TheForge] LG 25 with stuck clutch.

> Thanks Robert. I'm off to give it a try.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "robert hensarling" <rhrocker at hilconet.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:47 PM
> To: "'Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA'" 
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> Subject: Re: [TheForge] LG 25 with stuck clutch.
>
>> I hope not Marc. When I've had them stick like that, I've placed a 
>> board against the clutch housing (the part that moves)and tapped on 
>> the board with a hammer until it starts moving towards the back of 
>> the LG.  Then you can clean what you can clean what you can, but just 
>> getting a lot of oil on that clutch strap should do it.  Also most 
>> have a grease zert on the very back of the mandrel, so you can grease 
>> it there also.  Both are important for good operation.  I always try 
>> to remember something that was in a Dave Manser DCD, he stressed that 
>> you cannot over oil the beast.
>> The main thing now is to just try and get the clutch housing to slide 
>> back and forth.  I wouldn't consider taking it apart unless I was 
>> going to do a rebuild.
>> Of course, the really best thing you can do is to chat with Sid or 
>> Keri, their Wizards on these machines.
>> RH
>>
>>
>> 4326 East Main
>> Uvalde, Texas 78801
>> WWW.Mesquiterocker.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of marc3rd
>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:40 PM
>> To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] LG 25 with stuck clutch.
>>
>> Do you think I'm going to have to take it apart to break it loose and 
>> get the oil in there?
>>
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>> From: "robert hensarling" <rhrocker at hilconet.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:35 PM
>> To: "'Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA'" 
>> <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] LG 25 with stuck clutch.
>>
>>> Hummm.....Marc, I think that if you'll just use some motor oil (new, 
>>> not used)you might see the results you're looking for.  I believe 
>>> you've found the smoking gun.
>>> rh
>>>
>>>
>>> 4326 East Main
>>> Uvalde, Texas 78801
>>> WWW.Mesquiterocker.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>>> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of marc3rd
>>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:33 PM
>>> To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] LG 25 with stuck clutch.
>>>
>>> Ya I may have made a small mistake there. I could not get it to turn 
>>> so instead of bars lube like I usually use I used wkd40 to get in 
>>> between the surfaces then went over it with bars.
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "robert hensarling" <rhrocker at hilconet.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:11 PM
>>> To: "'Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA'"
>>> <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] LG 25 with stuck clutch.
>>>
>>>> Marc, I'm assuming that you oiled the heck out of the clutch?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4326 East Main
>>>> Uvalde, Texas 78801
>>>> WWW.Mesquiterocker.com
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>>>> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of marc3rd
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:08 PM
>>>> To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
>>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] LG 25 with stuck clutch.
>>>>
>>>> Hey everyone.
>>>> Rebuilding my shop after sitting for three years or so. Just 
>>>> relined the forge with fresh Insuwool.
>>>> I turned on the power hammer (LG 25 lb) and the clutch stuck and it 
>>>> started beating hard.
>>>> Hammer has maybe 100 hours since the babbet was repoured on the 
>>>> clutch pulley (By Sid) I checked all the mechanical linkage and 
>>>> everything seems to be retracted,
>>>>
>>>> I have the type with the  fibrous belt liner on the friction spider.
>>>> I am thinking (that means hoping)  that the belt  is just swollen 
>>>> and has to be replaced or maybe even sanded down a little.
>>>> Before I tear it down I thought I would get some opinions.
>>>> I think I am gonna give Sid a call and get some in the mail today. 
>>>> 10 to
>>>> 15
>>>> per foot I will need it eventually.
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Marc
>>>> Marc V Davis III
>>>> Marc of the Hammer
>>>>
>>>> "It's not about the light you reflect. "It's about the light you 
>>>> radiate!"
>>>> M3
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