[TheForge] local codes OT OT
Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer
artgawk at thegrid.net
Sun Jan 18 13:56:29 EST 2009
I think we are pretty much on the same side of this argument.
A competent citizen should be freely able to arm themselves, and needs
to be respected by the govt and their fellow citizens as potentially
dangerous.
The equality in question is ..equal before the law mostly...pf
Andrew Vida wrote:
>
> Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer wrote:
>> My unbridled respect for law abiding citizens has been shaken.
>> Still, i agree.
>> It's just that they behave so badly sometimes..pf
>>
>> Jerry Frost wrote:
>>> Bingo Pete, I can't think of a better argument for
>>> allowing law abiding citizens to carry fire arms.
>
> (setq soapbox 1)
>
> One other thing - Right here in Jerry's words lie the thinly veiled
> problems with notions such as "government" and "law" in the American
> mind (as well as many others who live "democratically"). If we assume
> that we are all equal as living beings (not accounting for differences
> in physical and mental faculties, but just as "souls" for lack of a
> better term), then whose place is it to allow or disallow much of
> anything? Here the ideal comes into some conflict with the practical,
> we all know - but that conflict is actually VERY tiny. It has become
> large because people have made it that way. The problem resides nowhere
> else but between peoples' ears.
>
> Once accepted, "equality" directly leads to rights such as those to
> preserve one's life or that of another. Such a right directly leads to
> the right to the MEANS of doing so, and therefore there is NO legitimate
> basis for denying anyone the right to the means of defense. None.
> Zero. Nada. Zilch. Tween. Zip. Nichts. Semmi. Nyichevo.
>
>
> (setq soapbox NIL)
> (setq NOMEX 1)
> (setq HUMOR 1)
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