[TheForge] local codes OT OT

Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer artgawk at thegrid.net
Fri Jan 16 19:45:35 EST 2009


An hour or two for us..they come in time to make a report, on a slow 
day.  But we pay the taxes to support them.

jerry_smith at anvilsandinkstudios.com wrote:
> I enjoy the Castle Doctrine, because thw deputies are always at least 20 minutes away. But then again our worse crime is speeding.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net> wrote:
> 
>> From: Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] local codes OT OT
>> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 6:44 PM
>> Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer wrote:
>>
>>>> 	CA has so changed since 76.  Couldn't pay me
>> to live there anymore - 
>>>> though it can be pleasant enough to visit.
>>> It's a highly variable state with very different
>> political and social 
>>> climes in different locations.
>> 	I'm sure, but overall it is the land of the clueless
>> where anything 
>> even remotely political is concerned.  When I lived there
>> Orange County 
>> was the redneck capital of the universe.  No no mo'.
>>
>>>> 	Of course it was.  Does LE get any more corrupt
>> than in the Golden State?
>>> Sure...this was very minor corruption really..way
>> nastier elsewhere.
>>
>> 	LA cops are the worst except maybe for Chicago.  NYC are
>> pretty bad 
>> too, and of course NJ are near and dear to my heart.
>>
>>>    Those people have no souls - in fact they
>>>> are not even human, all appearances to the
>> contrary notwithstanding. 
>>>> I'd call them reptiles, but the insult to
>> reptiles would be unconscionable.
>>> Bah...I disagree. Sure, some of them qualify, but most
>> cops are OK and 
>>> some are excellent human beings. They are not
>> responsible for bad law 
>>> and policies...that's a separate set of problems
>> they take flack for.
>>
>> 	I agree, but their actions smack of "I'm only
>> following orders" - which 
>> is one of the great cop outs of all time.
>>
>>> They deal with the azzholes for us, day in and day
>> out. I'm grateful for 
>>> that.
>> 	I didn't ask them to take the job.
>>
>>> It can't help but sour their outlook. One tends to
>> become like the 
>>> people you are around to some degree. They have to
>> fight that tendency 
>>> constantly.
>> 	Agreed.  One of the most miserable jobs on the planet,
>> largely because 
>> of all the shyte law they are required to enforce.  Could
>> be changed, 
>> but I'd not hold my breath waiting.
>>
>>> Fact is, most of us need them.
>> 	Only because most of us have abdicated responsibility for
>> our own lives 
>> at the most fundamental levels.  They do a lot of good
>> stuff, but the 
>> bad that is done undoes all of that.
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