[TheForge] rust finish

[Woolley]

Wayne,

Permalac is a really good product. I pick mine up at the facility in 
Philadelphia where it is made (save on the haz mat charges) and have 
talked to the chemist that created it.  It is a small concern called 
Peacock Labs that has been around for a while, at least two generations 
I would think. Google "Permalac" , they have a good web site with lots 
of good information, probably any you would need.  Good luck.

Regards,
Bill Woolley





Wayne Ackman wrote:
> thanks Grant.  I was talking to a guy in town today about Permalac.   
> As a matter of fact, he has 5 gallons he found in his storeroom, tho'  
> he doesn't carry it anymore.  I told him to hold it for me, but I was  
> wanting to find some more information on how well this would work.  By  
> burnish, you mean just brush the hell out of it?  Do you need to apply  
> a deactivating agent.  Also would Permalac work well with an airless  
> sprayer?  Thanks for jumping in here, as my client is indicating that  
> this is how he wants it to go.  He feels that this mottled rusted look  
> is more "authentic".   :-)
>
> Wayne Ackman
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> On Jan 6, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Grant Marcoux wrote:
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>   
>> Folks:  Rust finishes can be maintained outdoors by coating with  
>> Permalac.
>> I have had good luck by first rusting fully, then burnishing the  
>> rusted
>> surface with a stiff nylon brush.  This produces a plum colored  
>> finish.
>> Once the finish is burnished, after the desired depth is reached, then
>> Permalac it.  I first used the rusting technique on ML barrels and  
>> it is
>> quite handsome.  Grant
>>
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>> That's what I think.  I'm going to have to dissuade my customer from
>> this.  Maybe I can come up with a faux finish that will look similar.
>> I have been experimenting the last few days and it looks like I can do
>> this with a painted finish and then dry brush it for the mottled
>> appearance.
>>
>> Wayne Ackman
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>> On Jan 5, 2009, at 8:27 AM, Andrew Vida wrote:
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>>> Not well by my standards.  If it *requires* maintenance, then it is
>>> not
>>> a good outdoor finish.
>>>
>>> Wayne Ackman wrote:
>>>       
>>>> I have used a rust finish several times. -- sandblast, wire brush,
>>>> etc,
>>>> then rusted and waxed.  Finally a clear coat of lacquer.  How well
>>>> would
>>>> this finish hold up outside?
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