[TheForge] OT frozen pipes

[Andrew Vida]

When I sank the new well in NJ, I put in calcite and brine tanks.  Good 
grief, what a miserable PITA those things were.  One thing I decided 
after that was that I would not live in a place that had "water issues". 
  Nope, never again.  We have to two creeks, dozens of seasonal springs, 
several year-round springs, and the deep well.  All the water is very 
good.  I'll keep it. :)

The only problem we have is with the well.  Apparently they don't put 
gravel packs at the bottoms of wells in WV, so a goodly amount of 
sediment comes up the tube and it was clogging the hell out of the 
fixtures.  I installed a sediment trap and it made all the difference in 
the world.  I won't go with filters - had one in NJ - they get really 
disgusting in no time.  All I have to do with this trap is crack the 
valve every few months to clear out the trapped sediment.  So far, it 
works like a charm.

	

Peter Hirst wrote:
> What's eating your copper is acidic water:  can be treated with a filter 
> tank.  A little pricey, but sometjhimes you can pick them up cheap to 
> free from people switching over to municipal water from a well.  except 
> for slight acid (my copper is just beginning to develop pinholes after 
> 35 years) my well water is the best, and i wouldn't trade it for 
> anything.  So I picked up a filter and will replace the copper piece by 
> piece with good solid used stuff as I acquire it.  It will last a 
> lifetime with the filter, and since I have so much exposed plumbing in 
> the house, it is well worth it to me.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Smucker" 
> <davesmucker at hotmail.com>
> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 7:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
> 
> 
>> Andy,
>>
>> How does copper work in your area?  I was always a fan of copper until 
>> we moved here to Brasstown, NC.  With most of the well water in this 
>> area, it eats copper -- so any of the plastics are better.  Dad had 
>> the same problem when they moved to Boulder, CO.  Just check around 
>> before you go to copper. The well drillers here are the ones that told 
>> me to stay away from copper --  most of the hardware stores here don't 
>> even carry it any more.  (and I had lots of copper fittings on hand 
>> when I built this house.)
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Andrew Vida" <osan at netlabs.net>
>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:21 AM
>> To: "Bob Ehrenberger" <eforge at centurytel.net>; "Blacksmithing List 
>> Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
>>
>>> Sharkbite fittings are, as you say, pricey, but they really do work.  
>>> My plan for this house is to replace all the lousy PVC lines with 
>>> copper and sharkbite fittings.  Those fittings will also work with 
>>> PVC and any other rigid or semi-rigid tubing.  Very ingeniously 
>>> contrived, BTW.
>>>
>>> Bob Ehrenberger wrote:
>>>> The Monday before Christmas we had the temps drop below zero with 
>>>> high winds out of the West.  As a result, the pipes that run to our 
>>>> laundry froze and burst.  That section of the house is just a crawl 
>>>> space, so instead of opening up the hatch to gain access which would 
>>>> have really flooded the space with cold air, I decided to disconnect 
>>>> and cap that section at the source.  I got the Hot line capped ok, 
>>>> but the shut off valve did not stop the flow completly and let a 
>>>> steady drip through to the cold line. Because of the dampness, I 
>>>> couldn't get the joint to take solder, so I decided to use a 
>>>> compression fitting.  At the local farm store they didn't have any 
>>>> compression fittings, but they had something called SharkBite. It 
>>>> was a bit pricey but what option did I have?  So I got it.  To my 
>>>> amazment, it worked as advertised, just clean the end and slide the 
>>>> fitting on and you are done. So if you have to make an emergency 
>>>> repair, the SharkBite connectors are a good choice.
>>>>
>>>> Robert Ehrenberger
>>>> Shelbyville, Mo.
>>>> eforge at centurytel.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Manage membership or unsubscribe at:
>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/theforge
>>>> theforge mail list group photo site is
>>>> http://www.photoaccess.com
>>>> Login:  blacksmithblacksmith at hotmail.com
>>>> password:  anvil
>>>> ___________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>>     -Andy Vida
>>>
>>> Proof Technologies Inc.
>>> IV&V
>>> Project and Program Management
>>> (304) 466-0789
>>>             /\
>>>        __  /  \  __
>>>        \ \/ /\ \/ /
>>>         \ \/  \ \/
>>>         /\_\__/\ \
>>>        / ____/ /_ \
>>>       /_/  \  /  \_\
>>>             \/
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Manage membership or unsubscribe at:
>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/theforge
>>> theforge mail list group photo site is
>>> http://www.photoaccess.com
>>> Login:  blacksmithblacksmith at hotmail.com
>>> password:  anvil
>>> ___________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Manage membership or unsubscribe at:
>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/theforge
>> theforge mail list group photo site is
>> http://www.photoaccess.com
>> Login:  blacksmithblacksmith at hotmail.com
>> password:  anvil
>> ___________
>>
>>
>>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Manage membership or unsubscribe at:
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/theforge
> theforge mail list group photo site is
> http://www.photoaccess.com
> Login:  blacksmithblacksmith at hotmail.com
> password:  anvil
> ___________
> 
> 

-- 

     -Andy Vida

	Proof Technologies Inc.
	IV&V
	Project and Program Management
	(304) 466-0789
             /\
        __  /  \  __
        \ \/ /\ \/ /
         \ \/  \ \/
         /\_\__/\ \
        / ____/ /_ \
       /_/  \  /  \_\
             \/