[TheForge] OT frozen pipes
Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer
artgawk at thegrid.net
Sat Jan 3 17:15:27 EST 2009
So lets see;
Can't use PVC because of the poly-vinyl-chloride.
Can't use copper cause of the oxides.
Can't use old galv cause of the cadmium.
The new galv rust out.
Lead lasts but.....
Acrylics leach plasticizer too.
What does that leave that's certifiably benign?
pf
Peter Hirst wrote:
> Sure does. Notice any blue or green stains in sinks, toilets or where
> pinhole leaks have started? Course, those copper oxides won't kill
> you. Immediately
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer"
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>> Peter;
>> Does that mean we are drinking those copper oxides?..peter f
>>
>> Peter Hirst wrote:
>>> What's eating your copper is acidic water: can be treated with a
>>> filter tank. A little pricey, but sometjhimes you can pick them up
>>> cheap to free from people switching over to municipal water from a
>>> well. except for slight acid (my copper is just beginning to develop
>>> pinholes after 35 years) my well water is the best, and i wouldn't
>>> trade it for anything. So I picked up a filter and will replace the
>>> copper piece by piece with good solid used stuff as I acquire it. It
>>> will last a lifetime with the filter, and since I have so much
>>> exposed plumbing in the house, it is well worth it to me.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Smucker"
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>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 7:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
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>>>> Andy,
>>>>
>>>> How does copper work in your area? I was always a fan of copper
>>>> until we moved here to Brasstown, NC. With most of the well water
>>>> in this area, it eats copper -- so any of the plastics are better.
>>>> Dad had the same problem when they moved to Boulder, CO. Just check
>>>> around before you go to copper. The well drillers here are the ones
>>>> that told me to stay away from copper -- most of the hardware
>>>> stores here don't even carry it any more. (and I had lots of copper
>>>> fittings on hand when I built this house.)
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
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>>>> From: "Andrew Vida" <osan at netlabs.net>
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:21 AM
>>>> To: "Bob Ehrenberger" <eforge at centurytel.net>; "Blacksmithing List
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>>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT frozen pipes
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>>>>> Sharkbite fittings are, as you say, pricey, but they really do
>>>>> work. My plan for this house is to replace all the lousy PVC lines
>>>>> with copper and sharkbite fittings. Those fittings will also work
>>>>> with PVC and any other rigid or semi-rigid tubing. Very
>>>>> ingeniously contrived, BTW.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Ehrenberger wrote:
>>>>>> The Monday before Christmas we had the temps drop below zero with
>>>>>> high winds out of the West. As a result, the pipes that run to
>>>>>> our laundry froze and burst. That section of the house is just a
>>>>>> crawl space, so instead of opening up the hatch to gain access
>>>>>> which would have really flooded the space with cold air, I decided
>>>>>> to disconnect and cap that section at the source. I got the Hot
>>>>>> line capped ok, but the shut off valve did not stop the flow
>>>>>> completly and let a steady drip through to the cold line. Because
>>>>>> of the dampness, I couldn't get the joint to take solder, so I
>>>>>> decided to use a compression fitting. At the local farm store
>>>>>> they didn't have any compression fittings, but they had something
>>>>>> called SharkBite. It was a bit pricey but what option did I have?
>>>>>> So I got it. To my amazment, it worked as advertised, just clean
>>>>>> the end and slide the fitting on and you are done. So if you have
>>>>>> to make an emergency repair, the SharkBite connectors are a good
>>>>>> choice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert Ehrenberger
>>>>>> Shelbyville, Mo.
>>>>>> eforge at centurytel.net
>>>>>>
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