[TheForge] OT frozen pipes

Sat Jan 3 10:12:48 EST 2009

At the rate you pick up copper from drinking water, you easily excrete it.
Start worrying when you pee green.<G>

Mike Graf

Peter Hirst wrote:
> Sure does.  Notice any blue or green stains in sinks, toilets or where 
> pinhole leaks have started?    Course, those copper oxides won't kill 
> you. Immediately
>
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>> Peter;
>> Does that mean we are drinking those copper oxides?..peter f
>>
>> Peter Hirst wrote:
>>> What's eating your copper is acidic water:  can be treated with a 
>>> filter tank.  A little pricey, but sometjhimes you can pick them up 
>>> cheap to free from people switching over to municipal water from a 
>>> well.  except for slight acid (my copper is just beginning to 
>>> develop pinholes after 35 years) my well water is the best, and i 
>>> wouldn't trade it for anything. So I picked up a filter and will 
>>> replace the copper piece by piece with good solid used stuff as I 
>>> acquire it.  It will last a lifetime with the filter, and since I 
>>> have so much exposed plumbing in the house, it is well worth it to me.
>>>
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>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Smucker" 
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>>>> Andy,
>>>>
>>>> How does copper work in your area?  I was always a fan of copper 
>>>> until we moved here to Brasstown, NC.  With most of the well water 
>>>> in this area, it eats copper -- so any of the plastics are better.  
>>>> Dad had the same problem when they moved to Boulder, CO.  Just 
>>>> check around before you go to copper. The well drillers here are 
>>>> the ones that told me to stay away from copper --  most of the 
>>>> hardware stores here don't even carry it any more.  (and I had lots 
>>>> of copper fittings on hand when I built this house.)
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
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>>>> From: "Andrew Vida" <osan at netlabs.net>
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:21 AM
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>>>>> Sharkbite fittings are, as you say, pricey, but they really do 
>>>>> work. My plan for this house is to replace all the lousy PVC lines 
>>>>> with copper and sharkbite fittings.  Those fittings will also work 
>>>>> with PVC and any other rigid or semi-rigid tubing.  Very 
>>>>> ingeniously contrived, BTW.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Ehrenberger wrote:
>>>>>> The Monday before Christmas we had the temps drop below zero with 
>>>>>> high winds out of the West.  As a result, the pipes that run to 
>>>>>> our laundry froze and burst.  That section of the house is just a 
>>>>>> crawl space, so instead of opening up the hatch to gain access 
>>>>>> which would have really flooded the space with cold air, I 
>>>>>> decided to disconnect and cap that section at the source.  I got 
>>>>>> the Hot line capped ok, but the shut off valve did not stop the 
>>>>>> flow completly and let a steady drip through to the cold line. 
>>>>>> Because of the dampness, I couldn't get the joint to take solder, 
>>>>>> so I decided to use a compression fitting.  At the local farm 
>>>>>> store they didn't have any compression fittings, but they had 
>>>>>> something called SharkBite. It was a bit pricey but what option 
>>>>>> did I have?  So I got it.  To my amazment, it worked as 
>>>>>> advertised, just clean the end and slide the fitting on and you 
>>>>>> are done. So if you have to make an emergency repair, the 
>>>>>> SharkBite connectors are a good choice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert Ehrenberger
>>>>>> Shelbyville, Mo.
>>>>>> eforge at centurytel.net
>>>>>>
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