[TheForge] Metal working problem...again

[Andrew Vida]

Get a Lindsay engraver - about $1600 as I recall.  If you do a lot of 
this work, it is worth twice that in a heartbeat.  It is in itself a 
work of art.

Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer wrote:
> Might have to come to that, carving the eyes with small chisels and 
> gravers instead...but i have the eye dies already made and stamped in 
> the piece at this juncture. Even made a little "W" shaped stamp for the 
> odd shaped eye lids they have.
> Sometimes on stuff like this i go back in cold at the end and clean up 
> the detail by hand, but that's slow.
> 
> Andrew Vida wrote:
>> RE: cuttlefish - I think your best bet is to raise the eyes and chase 
>> the features in afterward.  Sometimes a result is only achieved through 
>> good old fashioned hard work.  Boo hooty hoo...
>>
>> Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer wrote:
>>> Unfortunately, it mashes across the high points and i'd have to try to 
>>> grind them off which would take way too long Andy. Good idea though.
>>> The most problematical one will be the cuttlefish buckle for a marine 
>>> bio guy. They have really raised bulging eyes right next to the delicate 
>>> tentacles. Sweating that one. Thinking about wrapping the tentacles in 
>>> wet rags before spot heating with the torch. Then working over soaked 
>>> wood with holes drilled to sink the eyes into. It's so easy to blow a 
>>> piece right at the end! I'm good at that.
>>>
>>> Andrew Vida wrote:
>>>> Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer wrote:
>>>>> Keziah's Forge wrote:
>>>>>> Wood end grain - even pine - is far too hard for brass, bronze, copper etc. 
>>>>>> You can even put a fabric pattern in brass by lining your end grain with it. 
>>>>> So i've found. But softer material just isn't stiff enough to do the 
>>>>> job. By spot heating and working over voids in the wood i minimize the 
>>>>> mushing, but not enough. The pieces are over 1/4" thick in places and 
>>>>> not very long or wide. There's a lot of relief both in the embossing and 
>>>>> in the shaping later.
>>>> 	One possibility is to plan where you will sink the domes and emboss 
>>>> those areas more deeply than others.  The right differential should just 
>>>> compensate for the additional deformation of the metal.
>>>>
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