[TheForge] Metal working problem...again

[Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer]

Might have to come to that, carving the eyes with small chisels and 
gravers instead...but i have the eye dies already made and stamped in 
the piece at this juncture. Even made a little "W" shaped stamp for the 
odd shaped eye lids they have.
Sometimes on stuff like this i go back in cold at the end and clean up 
the detail by hand, but that's slow.

Andrew Vida wrote:
> RE: cuttlefish - I think your best bet is to raise the eyes and chase 
> the features in afterward.  Sometimes a result is only achieved through 
> good old fashioned hard work.  Boo hooty hoo...
> 
> Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer wrote:
>> Unfortunately, it mashes across the high points and i'd have to try to 
>> grind them off which would take way too long Andy. Good idea though.
>> The most problematical one will be the cuttlefish buckle for a marine 
>> bio guy. They have really raised bulging eyes right next to the delicate 
>> tentacles. Sweating that one. Thinking about wrapping the tentacles in 
>> wet rags before spot heating with the torch. Then working over soaked 
>> wood with holes drilled to sink the eyes into. It's so easy to blow a 
>> piece right at the end! I'm good at that.
>>
>> Andrew Vida wrote:
>>> Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer wrote:
>>>> Keziah's Forge wrote:
>>>>> Wood end grain - even pine - is far too hard for brass, bronze, copper etc. 
>>>>> You can even put a fabric pattern in brass by lining your end grain with it. 
>>>> So i've found. But softer material just isn't stiff enough to do the 
>>>> job. By spot heating and working over voids in the wood i minimize the 
>>>> mushing, but not enough. The pieces are over 1/4" thick in places and 
>>>> not very long or wide. There's a lot of relief both in the embossing and 
>>>> in the shaping later.
>>> 	One possibility is to plan where you will sink the domes and emboss 
>>> those areas more deeply than others.  The right differential should just 
>>> compensate for the additional deformation of the metal.
>>>
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