[TheForge] Fw: New land and future forge

Thu Apr 9 21:08:50 EDT 2009

You know it has occurred to me to fill up the space with as much as I
can! I am more than likely able to get something like an old Demoor
power hammer from Finland than Australia! My power hammer experience
goes from a 60kg spring hammer to a 200kg Demoor.. mainly worked with
a 65kg drum demoor.. lovely to work with! Keeping my eyes open for
something similar..
I think you are right though.. I should use this opportunity to its fullest!

Steve

2009/4/7 ries <ries at riesniemi.com>:
> I realize that- I am just saying Stephen should take advantage of it.
> Shipping from LA to Hongkong is very cheap too- in fact, in some
> cases, its "free", with the payment of a fuel surcharge.
>
> I am sure there must be some things that are cheaper in northern
> europe than australia, and are useful to smiths...
>
>
> Ries
>
>
>
> On Apr 7, 2009, at 2:30 PM, David E. Smucker wrote:
>
> Ries,  World shipping rates can be crazy -- depends which way most of
> the
> trade freight is moving.  A number of years ago we moved a whole rolling
> mill from Germany to the USA, excess of 3,000 tons for very low cost.
> Reason, there was a shipping line base out of Germany buying timber in
> the
> Southeast of USA, shipping to Germany and saw milling it there.  They
> ran
> empty barges (loaded on a mother ship) from Germany to USA.  Very glad
> to
> load this heavy freight in Germany and send the barges up to
> Mississippi to
> Davenport, IA.
>
> Dave
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "ries" <ries at riesniemi.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 5:00 PM
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> Subject: Re: [TheForge] New land and future forge
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>> Man- that shipping price is an incredible deal!
>> How many miles is it from Finland to Australia?
>> 9000 miles?
>>
>> In the USA, to ship a half a container (I am assuming you mean half a
>> 40 footer, or 20 feet x 8 feet x 8 feet, a mere 1000 miles would
>> easily cost you that much.
>> My  calculations is that at current exchange rates, you are talking
>> about right around $1000 US. To ship a 20 foot load from my house, in
>> Washington State, to Washington DC, a mere 2328 miles, would probably
>> run me twice what they are charging you to ship 4 times the distance.
>>
>> If it were me, I would be buying iron like crazy in europe, if its
>> cheaper.
>>
>> Ries
>>
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Stephen Viola wrote:
>>
>> Thanks guys! it really is an exciting project. Just to give you an
>> idea about the location.. there are government sponsored special deals
>> for satelite phones because there isnt much mobile phone reception
>> there!
>>
>> Frosty..
>> I am such a miser!! I collect so much scrap I am sure the shed will be
>> filled in a few weeks! ...most of my tools, Anvils and swage block are
>> in Finland as I lived there for 18 years. As tempted as I have been
>> to increase my tool collection whilst here in London... I have
>> painfully refrained. I saw a great anvil in Devon that i was sorely
>> tempted to buy.. but there are only so many Queen Elizabeth stamps
>> that you can stick on a 150kg anvil ;o) Half a container to Australia
>> from Finland will cost me € 750.. weight not an issue.
>>
>>
>> It might be a while but as we progress there will be questions.. never
>> built a forge before! Even the issue of coke vs gas is a area I would
>> be looking for ideas.. I have forged for years using various forms of
>> coal and even kerosene but gas is new to me.. sounds cleaner.. dont
>> know if it is cheaper! Anyway like I said there will be plenty of
>> questions in the future.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> 2009/4/7 Justin Fisher <justinf at pixelations.com>:
>>> Congratulations!
>>>
>>> That sounds like the dream my wife and I have (she's also a jeweler,
>>> also wants a studio separate from my forge for some reason).
>>> Gives me hope that it can be done.
>>>
>>> --Justin Fisher
>>> Massachusetts
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