[TheForge] Fw: New land and future forge

[ries]

I realize that- I am just saying Stephen should take advantage of it.
Shipping from LA to Hongkong is very cheap too- in fact, in some  
cases, its "free", with the payment of a fuel surcharge.

I am sure there must be some things that are cheaper in northern  
europe than australia, and are useful to smiths...


Ries



On Apr 7, 2009, at 2:30 PM, David E. Smucker wrote:

Ries,  World shipping rates can be crazy -- depends which way most of  
the
trade freight is moving.  A number of years ago we moved a whole rolling
mill from Germany to the USA, excess of 3,000 tons for very low cost.
Reason, there was a shipping line base out of Germany buying timber in  
the
Southeast of USA, shipping to Germany and saw milling it there.  They  
ran
empty barges (loaded on a mother ship) from Germany to USA.  Very glad  
to
load this heavy freight in Germany and send the barges up to  
Mississippi to
Davenport, IA.

Dave

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From: "ries" <ries at riesniemi.com>
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Subject: Re: [TheForge] New land and future forge

> Man- that shipping price is an incredible deal!
> How many miles is it from Finland to Australia?
> 9000 miles?
>
> In the USA, to ship a half a container (I am assuming you mean half a
> 40 footer, or 20 feet x 8 feet x 8 feet, a mere 1000 miles would
> easily cost you that much.
> My  calculations is that at current exchange rates, you are talking
> about right around $1000 US. To ship a 20 foot load from my house, in
> Washington State, to Washington DC, a mere 2328 miles, would probably
> run me twice what they are charging you to ship 4 times the distance.
>
> If it were me, I would be buying iron like crazy in europe, if its
> cheaper.
>
> Ries
>
>
> On Apr 7, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Stephen Viola wrote:
>
> Thanks guys! it really is an exciting project. Just to give you an
> idea about the location.. there are government sponsored special deals
> for satelite phones because there isnt much mobile phone reception
> there!
>
> Frosty..
> I am such a miser!! I collect so much scrap I am sure the shed will be
> filled in a few weeks! ...most of my tools, Anvils and swage block are
> in Finland as I lived there for 18 years. As tempted as I have been
> to increase my tool collection whilst here in London... I have
> painfully refrained. I saw a great anvil in Devon that i was sorely
> tempted to buy.. but there are only so many Queen Elizabeth stamps
> that you can stick on a 150kg anvil ;o) Half a container to Australia
> from Finland will cost me € 750.. weight not an issue.
>
>
> It might be a while but as we progress there will be questions.. never
> built a forge before! Even the issue of coke vs gas is a area I would
> be looking for ideas.. I have forged for years using various forms of
> coal and even kerosene but gas is new to me.. sounds cleaner.. dont
> know if it is cheaper! Anyway like I said there will be plenty of
> questions in the future.
>
> Steve
>
> 2009/4/7 Justin Fisher <justinf at pixelations.com>:
>> Congratulations!
>>
>> That sounds like the dream my wife and I have (she's also a jeweler,
>> also wants a studio separate from my forge for some reason).
>> Gives me hope that it can be done.
>>
>> --Justin Fisher
>> Massachusetts
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