[TheForge] Prices

[Ron Childers]

Well, Dan, if you almost give away the miserable little jobs, you will get
more PITA jobs to do for nothing. Charge enough and the tedious jobs won't
seem so bad- you told me long ago about the sure-fire ways for a blacksmith
to go to hell...(-:/> Ron C

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Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:11 AM
To: Stephen Snow; Sponsored by ABANA
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Prices

You should never price a job contingent on future work that may never 
materialize.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Snow" <shsnow at mindspring.com>
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Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Prices


>
> Also, keep in mind that small jobs, although sometimes not worth the 
> trouble themselves, are advertising for bigger jobs, if not with that 
> particular customer, then with someone who sees that work somewhere. 
> Weighing these intangible factors also is important in how time is 
> allocated for different work...
>
> steve snow
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: GRAF <adveniam at att.net>
>>Sent: Mar 28, 2008 10:43 AM
>>To: Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Prices
>>
>>
>>
>>Andrew Vida wrote:
>>>     This is a really important point IMO.  One has to know when a job
>>> is simply not worth doing.
>>Andy, I have several thousands of dollars of income from GOOD jobs that
>>were generated by thankless, miserable little jobs.
>>The trick is not doing the miserable ones while leaving the good ones sit.
>>I just tell the pesky jobs owners that they can pay me $100 an hour if
>>they need it right now, or $50 an hour if I can do it as I see fit.
>>Either way I win.
>>> Design time should probably be a separate cost item.
>>If it is truly a one time project with no overlap I charge a separate
>>set up fee.If I need to build dies I either charge a lot and give them
>>the die, or if I think I might be able to use it again a little less.
>>The same goes for drawings.
>>It then works out often to, "The first one costs you $800, the second
>>$250 the third and more in batches of four or more $150 each.
>>> If you chalk it up to overhead and don't charge for it directly, you
>>> may be passing several times the purchase price of those $100 coat
>>> racks to another customer.
>>That depends for me whether or not it is a "tuition piece".
>>Spending two days learning to do something is little different than
>>going to a school and dropping $1500 with travel, meals, class charges,
>>other than  with the tuition piece I get to sleep with my wife at days 
>>end.
>>
>>
>>Mike Graf
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