[TheForge] Steel Scrap was Treadle Hammer Anvil Stand

[robert hensarling]

Was that at Dr. Ralph Sprouls digs?  He sent me some pictures you guys 
working that weekend.  It did look cold!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <williamsiron at comcast.net>
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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Steel Scrap was Treadle Hammer Anvil Stand


> Dave,
>
> Yes, that was the workshop where we made 30 treadle hammers. That was in 
> January 2003. We had a cold front come through and the high temps were in 
> the upper 30's for the whole weekend. I have been very pleased with the 
> hammer.
>
> Mark
> Snow Hill, Maryland
>
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "David E. Smucker" <davesmucker at hotmail.com>
>
>> The advantage on a treadle hammer of Mark's type of anvil is that it 
>> allows
>> you to use a drift and let it pass into the "hole". Now if you cut a slot
>> in one side of the tube about mid point with the bottom as a ramp and add 
>> a
>> drop in center piece with a ramp the drift can exit the anvil on one 
>> side.
>> If you do this right it can even be set so that it drops into a bucket of
>> water and cools the drift. The drift is then ready for the next hole.
>>
>> When we made the treadle hammers in the work shop I was in (I think Mark 
>> was
>> in it too) those of us who were lucky got the hammers with the center 
>> hole.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------- 
>> From:
>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 2:55 PM
>> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA"
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Steel Scrap was Treadle Hammer Anvil Stand
>>
>> > I have a treadle hammer with a 300 lb anvil of 6" tubing having a 2.5"
>> > wall. It works just fine. Solid stock might work better. I don't know.
>> >
>> > Mark
>> > Snow Hill, Maryland
>> >
>> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
>> > From: "David E. Smucker"
>> >
>> >> Like Ries notes -- most scrap is on the move today. Another reason is
>> >> that
>> >> most scrap yards expect the price of scrap to drop, and drop quickly 
>> >> so
>> >> you
>> >> want to get the money out of what you already have on the ground. 
>> >> Around
>> >> here (western North Carolina) many guys who would normally be hauling
>> >> timber
>> >> are current trucking scrap, pays better.
>> >>
>> >> Dave,
>> >>
>> >> ps I think steel prices will be coming down, question is when.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -------------------------------------------------- 
>> >> From: "ries"
>> >> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:13 AM
>> >> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA"
>> >> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Treadle Hammer Anvil Stand
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > On Jun 9, 2008, at 6:46 AM, Andrew Vida wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Why fart around with this at all? Go to the scrap yard and find a 
>> >> > piece
>> >> > of 6" solid round or 4" solid square and do the job correctly. If it
>> >> > costs you $50, so what?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 3 feet of 6" round weighs 300lbs.
>> >> > My local guy would get .30 a pound for that-
>> >> > $180.
>> >> > If he had any.
>> >> > Last time I was at the scrap yard, they had about 50 square feet of
>> >> > actual scrap for sale- a few perfect I beams or big pieces of 12"
>> >> > square
>> >> > tube, in lengths over 8 feet.
>> >> > Everything else goes right onto the big pile that is being loaded, 
>> >> > all
>> >> > day long, into containers for shipping to the steel mills, either 
>> >> > here
>> >> > in
>> >> > the USA or overseas.
>> >> > Most steel now, in an efficient scrap yard, sits for no more than a 
>> >> > day
>> >> > or two before being sold in bulk.
>> >> > Same thing with auto recyclers around here- Schnitzer, from 
>> >> > Portland,
>> >> > owns something like 600 auto recycling yards around the country.
>> >> > A car will sit 30 days, and then its crushed, no matter what- a
>> >> > computer
>> >> > printout tells em which cars to smash each day, to "keep the 
>> >> > inventory
>> >> > fresh".
>> >> >
>> >> > The value of land, the expense of running a business, means in most
>> >> > west
>> >> > coast states, anyway, a scrap yard goes out of business if it is
>> >> > waiting
>> >> > to get top dollar for that usable scrap like 6" round.
>> >> > Not a good thing, but an unfortunate truth around here.
>> >> >
>> >> > ries
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Ries Niemi
>> >> > Industrial Artist
>> >> > http://www.riesniemi.com/
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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