[TheForge] Steel Scrap was Treadle Hammer Anvil Stand

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Dave,

Yes, that was the workshop where we made 30 treadle hammers. That was in January 2003. We had a cold front come through and the high temps were in the upper 30's for the whole weekend. I have been very pleased with the hammer.

Mark
Snow Hill, Maryland

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From: "David E. Smucker" <davesmucker at hotmail.com> 

> The advantage on a treadle hammer of Mark's type of anvil is that it allows 
> you to use a drift and let it pass into the "hole". Now if you cut a slot 
> in one side of the tube about mid point with the bottom as a ramp and add a 
> drop in center piece with a ramp the drift can exit the anvil on one side. 
> If you do this right it can even be set so that it drops into a bucket of 
> water and cools the drift. The drift is then ready for the next hole. 
> 
> When we made the treadle hammers in the work shop I was in (I think Mark was 
> in it too) those of us who were lucky got the hammers with the center hole. 
> 
> Dave 
> 
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> From: 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 2:55 PM 
> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" 
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Steel Scrap was Treadle Hammer Anvil Stand 
> 
> > I have a treadle hammer with a 300 lb anvil of 6" tubing having a 2.5" 
> > wall. It works just fine. Solid stock might work better. I don't know. 
> > 
> > Mark 
> > Snow Hill, Maryland 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > From: "David E. Smucker" 
> > 
> >> Like Ries notes -- most scrap is on the move today. Another reason is 
> >> that 
> >> most scrap yards expect the price of scrap to drop, and drop quickly so 
> >> you 
> >> want to get the money out of what you already have on the ground. Around 
> >> here (western North Carolina) many guys who would normally be hauling 
> >> timber 
> >> are current trucking scrap, pays better. 
> >> 
> >> Dave, 
> >> 
> >> ps I think steel prices will be coming down, question is when. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -------------------------------------------------- 
> >> From: "ries" 
> >> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:13 AM 
> >> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA" 
> >> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Treadle Hammer Anvil Stand 
> >> 
> >> > 
> >> > On Jun 9, 2008, at 6:46 AM, Andrew Vida wrote: 
> >> > 
> >> > Why fart around with this at all? Go to the scrap yard and find a piece 
> >> > of 6" solid round or 4" solid square and do the job correctly. If it 
> >> > costs you $50, so what? 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 3 feet of 6" round weighs 300lbs. 
> >> > My local guy would get .30 a pound for that- 
> >> > $180. 
> >> > If he had any. 
> >> > Last time I was at the scrap yard, they had about 50 square feet of 
> >> > actual scrap for sale- a few perfect I beams or big pieces of 12" 
> >> > square 
> >> > tube, in lengths over 8 feet. 
> >> > Everything else goes right onto the big pile that is being loaded, all 
> >> > day long, into containers for shipping to the steel mills, either here 
> >> > in 
> >> > the USA or overseas. 
> >> > Most steel now, in an efficient scrap yard, sits for no more than a day 
> >> > or two before being sold in bulk. 
> >> > Same thing with auto recyclers around here- Schnitzer, from Portland, 
> >> > owns something like 600 auto recycling yards around the country. 
> >> > A car will sit 30 days, and then its crushed, no matter what- a 
> >> > computer 
> >> > printout tells em which cars to smash each day, to "keep the inventory 
> >> > fresh". 
> >> > 
> >> > The value of land, the expense of running a business, means in most 
> >> > west 
> >> > coast states, anyway, a scrap yard goes out of business if it is 
> >> > waiting 
> >> > to get top dollar for that usable scrap like 6" round. 
> >> > Not a good thing, but an unfortunate truth around here. 
> >> > 
> >> > ries 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Ries Niemi 
> >> > Industrial Artist 
> >> > http://www.riesniemi.com/ 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
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