[TheForge] Steel Scrap was Treadle Hammer Anvil Stand

[David E. Smucker]

The advantage on a treadle hammer of Mark's type of anvil is that it allows 
you to use a drift and let it pass into the "hole".  Now if you cut a slot 
in one side of the tube about mid point with the bottom as a ramp and add a 
drop in center piece with a ramp the drift can exit the anvil on one side. 
If you do this right it can even be set so that it drops into a bucket of 
water and cools the drift.  The drift is then ready for the next hole.

When we made the treadle hammers in the work shop I was in (I think Mark was 
in it too) those of us who were lucky got the hammers with the center hole.

Dave

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From: <williamsiron at comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 2:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [TheForge] Steel Scrap was Treadle Hammer Anvil Stand

> I have a treadle hammer with a 300 lb anvil of 6" tubing having a 2.5" 
> wall. It works just fine. Solid stock might work better. I don't know.
>
> Mark
> Snow Hill, Maryland
>
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "David E. Smucker" <davesmucker at hotmail.com>
>
>> Like Ries notes -- most scrap is on the move today. Another reason is 
>> that
>> most scrap yards expect the price of scrap to drop, and drop quickly so 
>> you
>> want to get the money out of what you already have on the ground. Around
>> here (western North Carolina) many guys who would normally be hauling 
>> timber
>> are current trucking scrap, pays better.
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> ps I think steel prices will be coming down, question is when.
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: "ries"
>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:13 AM
>> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA"
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Treadle Hammer Anvil Stand
>>
>> >
>> > On Jun 9, 2008, at 6:46 AM, Andrew Vida wrote:
>> >
>> > Why fart around with this at all? Go to the scrap yard and find a piece
>> > of 6" solid round or 4" solid square and do the job correctly. If it
>> > costs you $50, so what?
>> >
>> >
>> > 3 feet of 6" round weighs 300lbs.
>> > My local guy would get .30 a pound for that-
>> > $180.
>> > If he had any.
>> > Last time I was at the scrap yard, they had about 50 square feet of
>> > actual scrap for sale- a few perfect I beams or big pieces of 12" 
>> > square
>> > tube, in lengths over 8 feet.
>> > Everything else goes right onto the big pile that is being loaded, all
>> > day long, into containers for shipping to the steel mills, either here 
>> > in
>> > the USA or overseas.
>> > Most steel now, in an efficient scrap yard, sits for no more than a day
>> > or two before being sold in bulk.
>> > Same thing with auto recyclers around here- Schnitzer, from Portland,
>> > owns something like 600 auto recycling yards around the country.
>> > A car will sit 30 days, and then its crushed, no matter what- a 
>> > computer
>> > printout tells em which cars to smash each day, to "keep the inventory
>> > fresh".
>> >
>> > The value of land, the expense of running a business, means in most 
>> > west
>> > coast states, anyway, a scrap yard goes out of business if it is 
>> > waiting
>> > to get top dollar for that usable scrap like 6" round.
>> > Not a good thing, but an unfortunate truth around here.
>> >
>> > ries
>> >
>> >
>> > Ries Niemi
>> > Industrial Artist
>> > http://www.riesniemi.com/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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