[TheForge] More Museum Madness

[GRAF]

They could just be trying you, by blowing something past you to see what 
you say.
After checking Grants reference, my response at this point would be.
.
"When you asked me that my first thought was that they weren't steeled, 
but then again it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.
After checking my sources it turns out I apparently was correct with my 
first impression.
For your own reference  may I suggest .
"Firearms, Traps and Tools of the Mountain Men"  by Russell
If you have contradicting references or source samples I would be most 
interested in seeing them."

Mike Graf



Peter Hirst wrote:
> I'm coming to the same opinion.  At this point, i have only dealt with 
> the educaton department folks.  I hope to get with their current 
> master smith soon.  SO if they have a master smith, why are they 
> dealing with me?  Good question.  Apparently he has so much to do to 
> keep the museum itself in iron and demonstrate, he has no time to make 
> sale items.  that's where i am hoping to come in.
>
> ;-)
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>> I don't think these were steeled at all.  The reference for these 
>> would be
>> "Firearms, Traps and Tools of the Mountain Men"  by Russell.  Grant
>>
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>> Thanks for everyone's tips on dealing with the museum.  Here's a new 
>> twist.
>> I submitted a steel flint striker to the education department there 
>> and got
>> an interesting response.  "It looks very good, but is it all steel or 
>> irone
>> with a steeled edge?     Actually, I made the whole thing from 1045, 
>> with
>> max hardness (About R50C) on the striking edge and straw tempered
>> elsewhere). I thought it was pretty good, but they insist that even 
>> so amll
>> an item as a striker should be steeled. This from the organization that
>> sells machined scissors stamped "CHINA" in its crafts center as colonial
>> reproductions. But they are buying and i am selling ,SO just to humor 
>> them I
>> said I woulod look into steeling the edge, but can't find out anythng
>> specific about the process.
>>
>> The business ende of this item is about 3/16 x 3/8 x 3 1/2, one of 
>> the long
>> edges being the striking surface.  Couple of questions:
>>
>> Would I split the thin edge to insert the steel or fold the piece  
>> over the
>> steel?
>>
>> What combination of mild and high carbon steels can I reasonbly 
>> expect to
>> forge weld in this configuration, and are there any special problems, 
>> other
>> than the obvious mechanical ones of  size that i need to look out 
>> for.  I am
>> willing to do this by trial and error, but would refer whatever 
>> guidance I
>> can scare up.
>>
>> Thanks.
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