[TheForge] Propane Users tank sizes and usage

[Dan Brewer]

Larry's burners are a little different than Mikes.  Larry has what is called
a sidearm burner.  It uses a Ward brand reducing tee. Propane enters through
one of the large ends that has a gas jet fitted to it.  Air enters through
another large opening the gas tube is fitted on the small end of the tee.
Mikes design differs in that you cut slots in the burner tube removing about
half of the tube.  The slots are squared and tapered.  The gas enters
through a gas accelerator that is fitted with a mig contact tip. The mig
contact tip needs to be 1.5 inches long not the shorter one. The Porter type
burner can be tuned to completely burn the fuel as a primary flame.  Most of
the other burner rely on secondary combustion to burn the fuel completely..
Mike does a much better job of explaining the operation of the burner.  I
just own a dozen or so.  I use a 3/4 inch burner for most of my work.

Dan in Auburn WA   

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mark A. Pesetsky
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 6:04 AM
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Subject: RE: [TheForge] Propane Users tank sizes and usage

I am pretty sure that the venturi hole in the body of my Fogg style forge is
1/16" w/the air/fuel mixture being forced through it.
 
Mark

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Sent: Sat 10/20/2007 8:40 AM
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Subject: RE: [TheForge] Propane Users tank sizes and usage





Dan,

Interesting...
Mike Porters burner  uses a mig tip for the propane orifice? .. hmmm.

Guessing here:  as Zoeller Forge is selling Porter's book,   the LP
BURNER that Larry Zoeller made for me  a couple years ago, is
probably a "Porter" type Burner.

Rather than hunt down parts,  I couple years  back, I  asked Larry to
include everything for the burner, including the regulator, and
hose.  Just add BBQ LP tank: have complete forge burner.

http://www.zoellerforge.com/flare.html

I thought it was a good value.    Consider the time spent running to
the hardware store... not knowing exactly what you are looking for...
so feeling a bit like an idiot while searching through
catalogs.  Then choosing, ordering and getting a one of a kind item
that my small "mom and pop" hardware store will probably never order
again... and then  when the part comes in.... <grins> finding out
that it was the wrong fitting.

Yuppers! It was a great value.

Looking at Zoeller's new web page, I see that Larry has all that
stuff listed now.

Then I  had another brain fart... Maybe this Porter Burner is similar
to what Frosty helped Rich Fizzell assemble  a couple years ago.  I
think that Rich said his burners also use a mig tips for the propane
orifice.

Rich  said he really liked Frosty's burners, and used them to
replace  the stock burners that came with his Whisper Momma.

<big stupid grins>

Dann


 > Mike Porter a member on this forum has developed a style of burner that
 > sips
 > fuel and puts out a real hot flame.  He wrote a book detailing how to
 > build
 > not only the burner but the equipment to use it in.  His book Gas Burners
 > for Forges, Furnaces, and Kilns can be purchased through Amazon or at
 > Larry
 > Zoller's site.  Larry carries some of the hard to find parts.
 > http://www.zoellerforge.com/flare.html
 >
 > Dan in Auburn WA


At 08:42 PM 10/19/2007, you wrote:
>I can't find any reference to a Porter Burner in my
>Michael Porter Book Gas Burners for Forges, Furnaces
>and Kilns.
>
>I look because Porter wrote the book.
>
>Jerry
>
>--- Lynn Emrich <theatre_weapons at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > OK Dan, let an uninformed person know what a
> > 'Porter"
> > style burner is.
> > Thanks, Lynn
> >
> > --- Dan Brewer <danqualman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
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