[TheForge] Another air hammer question

[Ron Childers]

Rick @ Bear Creek Metal Craft has used a Big Blue for 5 0r 6 years and
wouldn't trade it for anything. I have seen him attack some big honking
chunks of iron on it. He also works in his shop all day every day.

Ron C

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Part of the answer might lie in hold old your other compressor is and 
what else you use it for.
If it is on its way out anyway then you are only looking at the 
difference between an exact replacement and the upgrade.

The Bull,when I first got it , ran on one of those ten gallon wheeled 
compressors that they sell at Big Box.
It worked fine for about 1 minute or so and then needed to recharge. It 
was satisfactory during my "getting to know you' sessions.
You can mangle a lot of metal in a minute on one of these.

Once I got to the point where I was actually working out of the, fire . 
Heating one or two while forging on the other, the little compressor 
couldn't keep up.
So much of it depends on how fast  and continuously you work, and how 
many noisy little compressors you want to burn out.

The third is what else do you power off of your compressor and is it 
being used while you are forging. If you are working alone your 
grinders, paint sprayers, pneumatic hand tools do not have to be figured in.

I also like the minimal footprint of the Bull. The compressor is not in 
the shop so valuable floor space can be filled with useless junk rather 
than a bigger hammer.<G>

Mike Graf

Cindy and James wrote:
> I attended the SCABA conf. in Perry, OK this past weekend... good 
> conference, good demo's and great people.  Very worthwhile!
>
> Tom Clark was there and had one of his Turkish air hammers.  He is 
> very interesting to watch and I enjoyed visiting with him.  He is good 
> with his air hammer.
>
> Now the question:
>
> Several commented to my first question that they had Bull (Phoenix) 
> hammers or Big Blu.  Does anyone have one of Tom Clark's air hammers?  
> If so, what is your opinion, use of, etc., etc.
>
> The Turkish hammer Tom sells does not require an outside air 
> compressor, but is self contained.  Tom says it is better.  Is it?
> (It may be, but I would say that too if I were selling them!)  I have 
> a shop air system that puts out 25 CFM air (7.5 hp 3-phase, 2 stage, 
> 80 gallon) and is piped throughout my shop w/ 3/4 inch pipe.  Tom's 
> hammer is roughly $2 to 3000 more expensive than the Phoenix or 
> BigBlu, about the same cost as an upgrade of my air system to a 10 
> hp/30 cfm unit (if required to run a non self contained hammer).  I 
> could probably get by with my current air system although I might have 
> to wait a bit here and there.
>
>
> James Allcorn
> Bois D'Arc Forge
> Paris TX
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