[TheForge] repeated , repeated, repeated content!!!!
Paul Edward Matthaei
shod at ix.netcom.com
Tue Oct 9 21:30:31 EDT 2007
I doubt this will reach the list but here goes.........
I have been a member for several yr's now and a WORKING blacksmith, (how I
make money) and in that time I have found in those yr's few things of any
value??? I don't have a smithy or a studio, I have a shop. I get up in the
morning and have my coffee and scroll through the enlist drivel about S
hooks and the all important starting a fire issue, not to mention those
personal msg. about billybob's condition. I suggest for the benefit of ABANA
that perhaps this list should be titled in two sections.......WORKING
blacksmiths and those playing at it. I know I will miss the heated discourse
about the use of ghoss darn in the postings, my kids don't really care about
my e-mail. There is a lot wrong here but I don't have the time to go over
the list this yr.
Focus people, there is ytube and your own web site to consider?????????????
Paul
OldEllicottForge.com
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1. Now HERE is some fabrication ;-) (Saint Phlip)
2. OT - DVD Players and New DVDs (Jerry Smith)
3. RE: OT - DVD Players and New DVDs (Mark A. Pesetsky)
4. RE: OT - DVD Players and New DVDs (T)
5. RE: OT - DVD Players and New DVDs (Jerry Smith)
6. RE: OT - DVD Players and New DVDs (Jerry Smith)
7. to damn many attachments (Thomas Benda)
8. Re: to damn many attachments (Saint Phlip)
9. Re: to damn many attachments (Jerry Frost)
10. Re: to damn many attachments (Jerry Smith)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:33:21 -0400
From: "Saint Phlip" <phlip at 99main.com>
Subject: [TheForge] Now HERE is some fabrication ;-)
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Cc: ArtMetal Sandbox <sandbox at artmetal.com>
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http://www.steelisalive.com/bbqsculptures.htm
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Heat it up
Hit it hard
Repent as necessary.
Priorities:
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Denial of evidence is not refutation of evidence.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:40:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerry Smith <jerry_smith at anvilsandinkstudios.com>
Subject: [TheForge] OT - DVD Players and New DVDs
To: The Forge <theforge at mailman.qth.net>, Knife List
<knife-list at kepler-eng.com>
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I just got the Fantastic Four - Rise of the Silver
Surfer. It won't play on either of my DVD players, but
will play on my computers DVD drive.
Do I need to buy a new DVD player? Which one?
Thanks,
Jerry
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:44:57 -0400
From: "Mark A. Pesetsky" <pesetsky at Princeton.EDU>
Subject: RE: [TheForge] OT - DVD Players and New DVDs
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
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YES...One that will play all formats...Check what format it is on your
computer. Most new DVD players will play all formats...Make sure the dvd
isn't a "Blue Tooth". If it is, those dvd players are a bit more
expensive.
Mark
Mark Pesetsky
Senior Technician/Night Manager
Media Services
Princeton University
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[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Smith
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:41 PM
To: The Forge; Knife List
Subject: [TheForge] OT - DVD Players and New DVDs
I just got the Fantastic Four - Rise of the Silver Surfer. It won't play
on either of my DVD players, but will play on my computers DVD drive.
Do I need to buy a new DVD player? Which one?
Thanks,
Jerry
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:56:25 -0700
From: T <mail4t at gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [TheForge] OT - DVD Players and New DVDs
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I think he means "Blu-Ray".
Terry
At 03:44 PM 10/4/2007, you wrote:
>YES...One that will play all formats...Check what format it is on your
>computer. Most new DVD players will play all formats...Make sure the dvd
>isn't a "Blue Tooth". If it is, those dvd players are a bit more
>expensive.
>
>Mark
>
>
>Mark Pesetsky
>Senior Technician/Night Manager
>Media Services
>Princeton University
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Smith
>Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:41 PM
>To: The Forge; Knife List
>Subject: [TheForge] OT - DVD Players and New DVDs
>
>I just got the Fantastic Four - Rise of the Silver Surfer. It won't play
>on either of my DVD players, but will play on my computers DVD drive.
>
>Do I need to buy a new DVD player? Which one?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jerry
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:59:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerry Smith <jerry_smith at anvilsandinkstudios.com>
Subject: RE: [TheForge] OT - DVD Players and New DVDs
To: Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
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Mark,
The DVD is a regular SDTV type, but wide screen on one
side and full screen on the other.
Jerry
--- "Mark A. Pesetsky" <pesetsky at Princeton.EDU> wrote:
> YES...One that will play all formats...Check what
> format it is on your
> computer. Most new DVD players will play all
> formats...Make sure the dvd
> isn't a "Blue Tooth". If it is, those dvd players
> are a bit more
> expensive.
>
> Mark
>
>
> Mark Pesetsky
> Senior Technician/Night Manager
> Media Services
> Princeton University
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf
> Of Jerry Smith
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:41 PM
> To: The Forge; Knife List
> Subject: [TheForge] OT - DVD Players and New DVDs
>
> I just got the Fantastic Four - Rise of the Silver
> Surfer. It won't play
> on either of my DVD players, but will play on my
> computers DVD drive.
>
> Do I need to buy a new DVD player? Which one?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jerry
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:01:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerry Smith <jerry_smith at anvilsandinkstudios.com>
Subject: RE: [TheForge] OT - DVD Players and New DVDs
To: Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
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It aiein't either of those, and it didn't come with a
cell phone :)
Jerry
--- T <mail4t at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think he means "Blu-Ray".
>
> Terry
>
> At 03:44 PM 10/4/2007, you wrote:
> >YES...One that will play all formats...Check what
> format it is on your
> >computer. Most new DVD players will play all
> formats...Make sure the dvd
> >isn't a "Blue Tooth". If it is, those dvd players
> are a bit more
> >expensive.
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >
> >Mark Pesetsky
> >Senior Technician/Night Manager
> >Media Services
> >Princeton University
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> >[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf
> Of Jerry Smith
> >Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:41 PM
> >To: The Forge; Knife List
> >Subject: [TheForge] OT - DVD Players and New DVDs
> >
> >I just got the Fantastic Four - Rise of the Silver
> Surfer. It won't play
> >on either of my DVD players, but will play on my
> computers DVD drive.
> >
> >Do I need to buy a new DVD player? Which one?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Jerry
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:00:55 -0700
From: "Thomas Benda" <bendathomas at gmail.com>
Subject: [TheForge] to damn many attachments
To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
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I have been a computer person for quite a few years and a blacksmith for
more than that. I have one big
request!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOULD YOU PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE JUST COPY THE SUBJECT
AND THAN FORMULATE YOUR REPLY AS A SEPARATE E-MAIL.
I AM VERY TIRED OF HAVING TO PLOW THROUGH THE MANY COPIES OF THE ORIGINAL
MESSAGE JUST TO READ THE RESPONSES.
THANX
an unhappy member
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:08:30 -0400
From: "Saint Phlip" <phlip at 99main.com>
Subject: Re: [TheForge] to damn many attachments
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
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TheForge doesn't allow attachments...
And, shouting is rude.
On 10/4/07, Thomas Benda <bendathomas at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have been a computer person for quite a few years and a blacksmith for
> more than that. I have one big
> request!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> WOULD YOU PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE JUST COPY THE SUBJECT
> AND THAN FORMULATE YOUR REPLY AS A SEPARATE E-MAIL.
>
> I AM VERY TIRED OF HAVING TO PLOW THROUGH THE MANY COPIES OF THE ORIGINAL
> MESSAGE JUST TO READ THE RESPONSES.
>
> THANX
> an unhappy member
--
Saint Phlip
Heat it up
Hit it hard
Repent as necessary.
Priorities:
It's the smith who makes the tools, not the tools which make the smith.
Denial of evidence is not refutation of evidence.
Blessed be the self-righteous, for they shall inherit themselves.
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:53:15 -0800
From: "Jerry Frost" <akfrosty at mtaonline.net>
Subject: Re: [TheForge] to damn many attachments
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <059401c806fa$e0e6ec80$6401a8c0 at albatross>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Agreed shouting isn't necessary and certainly isn't
polite.
However not trimming the repeating junk from posts is
just as if not more rude. I think we know Thomas isn't
talking about "attachments," it's all the repeated
footers, signoffs and full posts hanging off the end of
all too many posts. Sometimes the original post is
repeaded in every reply that appears with an ever
increasing repeat of every reply, ad naseum.
It isn't hard to trim a post when replying and several
ways to do it. Personally I like having any text
included from the original post marked with the little
arrow heads >>>>. It makes it easy to tell what I've
written in response to what I'm replying to. I trim as
much of the original post as possible to retain the
meaning, context, etc. to my reply.
One way to do this is highlight the part of the
original post then hit "Reply". The highlighted text
will be the only thing carried through to the reply
message. This doesn't work for me unfortunately so I
have to revert to the next method.
I hit reply then delete everything not related to my
reply. Sometimes I intersperse my reply in the
preceeding post.
Another way is to cut and paste the text you're
replying to into the new message. This loses the >
indicators though so it makes for a more confusing
reply as it's harder to tell the new from the old.
I trim the header so only the poster's name and E-mail
address remains. The From: line. Who needs to see the
date, subject line, etc. AGAIN?
Also, who needs to see all of the last 15 posts with
arrowheads stacked like cordwood trailing for nine, ten
or thirty pages when the current poster is only saying
something like. "Nice work!" or "Congratulations!" or
"I agree!" etc. Heck, a one word reply is no worse than
three pages of well thought out informative text if
there's 50kb of needless repeated crap hanging from it.
Seriously, start scrolling down messages and see how
much totally unnecessary junk is still there for no
good reason.
So, I agree shouting in frustration is a really poor
first post. (I think; I don't recall seeing anything
from Thomas before but I could be wrong)
On the other hand I understand the frustration. Some
folk are still on dialup connections and all the
unnecessary crap can choke dialups to a standstill for
no reason other than too many posters either just don't
care or are too lazy to do a little trimming.
Trimming is easy though it may take a few seconds and a
little thought. Not being able to receive your E-mail
because your connection times out from the needless
overload is more than inconvenient.
Frosty
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it ain't real.
Wrought iron is.
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From: "Saint Phlip" <phlip at 99main.com>
> TheForge doesn't allow attachments...
>
> And, shouting is rude.
>
> On 10/4/07, Thomas Benda <bendathomas at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> WOULD YOU PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE JUST COPY THE
>> SUBJECT
>> AND THAN FORMULATE YOUR REPLY AS A SEPARATE E-MAIL.
>>
>> I AM VERY TIRED OF HAVING TO PLOW THROUGH THE MANY
>> COPIES OF THE ORIGINAL
>> MESSAGE JUST TO READ THE RESPONSES.
>>
>> THANX
>> an unhappy member
>
>
> --
> Saint Phlip
>
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:11:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerry Smith <jerry_smith at anvilsandinkstudios.com>
Subject: Re: [TheForge] to damn many attachments
To: Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <734590.32878.qm at web90515.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Frosty,
I agree with you, but sometimes when I have 50 to 60
emails show up, both work and entertainment, I have to
buzz through them, so I can get back to work. As
requested, I have trimmed this email down to basics.
But I think ignoring a useful email is also rude.
Jerry
--- Jerry Frost <akfrosty at mtaonline.net> wrote:
> Agreed shouting isn't necessary and certainly isn't
> polite.
>
> However not trimming the repeating junk from posts
> is
> just as if not more rude.
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