[TheForge] RE: Permalac

Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer artgawk at thegrid.net
Mon May 21 20:32:12 EDT 2007


I think that Corroseal, which has a very high PH, inhibiting 
rust, and a latex sort of sealer is a bit more enduring as a sub 
primer coat.
There is more expensive stuff yet that claims wonderful things, 
but most of the ***** sales folks lie...pf

Ron Childers wrote:
> Auto parts places sell it. "Extend" is another brand. I think "One Step" is
> cheaper.
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> Ron C
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> Grant,
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> "One Step" is a brand name?
> 
> Bill Woolley
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> Grant Marcoux wrote:
>> I think the reaction is Ferric oxide (red?) to Ferric nitrate (black?)
>> Anyway, the stuff works....paint on one coat, allow to work for 20
> minutes.
>> Add another coat and allow to work for 24 hrs.  A rich, deep black is
>> produced, with no ash.  You can Permalac over this surface nicely.   Grant
>>
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>> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Mike Spencer
>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:57 AM
>> To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [TheForge] RE: Permalac
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>>> Permalac may be applied over "1-step" rust converter.
>>>     
>> Okaayyyy, so what exactly do these "rust converter" products do?
>>
>> Given how many $$ and hours the metal and paint industries put into
>> coping  with rust, they sound like snake oil to me.  I have an aerosol
>> can of one brand that I've dicked around with a bit without learning
>> much. Yes, the red stuff turns black.   And?
>>
>> So what's the chemistry?  Fe+++ -> Fe++?  What happens at the surface
>> the base metal underneath?  To the water of hydration in the red rust?
>> What what?
>>
>>
>> - Mike
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