[TheForge] Sighting in Rifles

Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer artgawk at thegrid.net
Mon Jun 18 01:35:37 EDT 2007


The firearms argument tends to have a rural/urban divide.
The only thing to shoot in the city is other people.
I own guns, wear a seatbelt, etc and don't think it's the govt's 
business...
even though i shared a hospital room for a long week with a 
handsome young vegitable..he will never walk out of there or 
speak a word and good folks lives are spent taking care of the 
body. He was an adult when he crashed...who should pay for his care?
Uh oh, i hear the list mom calling...
Rigged up an old pump from a coleman stove as a damper cylinder 
on my pop-up-torch so that it closes the valves more gently when 
i step off the foot pedal....pf

Jerry Smith wrote:
> Bruce,
> 
> I live out in country side, the real in now where
> country side. Have a rifle next to the door is pretty
> common out here. It's there for two things, wild
> animals and salemen.
> 
> A fas as seat belts, I wear mine, I don't have a cycle
> or an ATV so I don't have a helmet for that purpose. I
> do have ahelmet with my bicycle. That really makes a
> lot of sense to wear, especially with all of the ATVs
> on the road where they are no suppose to be.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> --- Bruce Freeman <freemab222 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Read it again, Andy.
>>
>> He was complaining that it was his Constitutional
>> right to bear arms, and to wear neither seat belt
>> nor
>> motorcycle helmet.
>>
>> I was contrasting that against what I consider
>> rather
>> important Constitutional guarantees that, I believe
>> you agree, the current President chooses to ignore.
>>
>> I suppose that's what happens when you elect a
>> president who was stoned on cocaine all through HS
>> civics class...
>>
>> Bruce
>> NJ
>>
>> --- Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Bruce Freeman wrote:
>>>> So,it's okay if W invades Iraq on false
>> pretenses,
>>>> denies Constitutional and Geneva Convention
>>>> protections to prisoners, wiretaps you and
>>> everybody
>>>> else, and your sends your kids off to kill
>> people.
>>>> All that's okay...
>>> 	
>>> 	Eh?  I must have missed something because I
>> cannot
>>> for the life of me 
>>> see how you come to those inferences, based on
>> what
>>> Bob wrote.
>>>> ...As long as you can smoke your lungs out, buy
>>> guns,
>>>> and avoid wearing seat belts and motorcycle
>>> helmets.
>>>
>>> 	Ah... OK, I see.  Uh...  no.
>>>> That's quite a vigil!
>>>>
>>>> Somehow, my vision of America seems divergent
>> from
>>>> yours.
>>> 	I think you are talking past each other and this
>> is
>>> not surprising 
>>> because these are perennial hot button issues that
>>> seem to have the 
>>> magical ability to cause people to abandon their
>>> faculties, their reason 
>>> in particular.  I cannot speak for Bob, but I
>> would
>>> bet that he has not 
>>> implied anything you assert.  But I will agree
>> with
>>> you that Americans, 
>>> by and large, aren't worth wiping your ass with in
>>> terms of putting 
>>> their money (or muscle) where their mouths are. 
>> I'm
>>> probably on of 
>>> those.  I watch year after year go by as this
>>> government imposes ever 
>>> tighter and more draconian restrictions upon us as
>>> the corporate 
>>> fascists take over, yet for all the complaining I
>>> see no substantive 
>>> action taken.  We get what we deserve, and if we
>> as
>>> a nation fall fully 
>>> into slavery, we will have nobody to blame but
>>> ourselves.  The shame of 
>>> it that had we take n our heads out of our
>> assholes
>>> 27 years ago and put 
>>> the simpleton Reagan and his fascist c handlers in
>>> their places, we 
>>> might be enjoying a far better life than we do. 
>> And
>>> with every year 
>>> that passes in self-absorption or apathy, we come
>>> closer and closer to 
>>> the need to take up arms in order to restore
>>> ourselves, if even the will 
>>> shall ever exist again to do so.  Talking would be
>> a
>>> lot easier than 
>>> shooting.
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