[TheForge] Sighting in RiflesOT, mostly

[Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer]

He is a convincing argument for the damage drugs and alcohol do.

Finished the Morose Moose door knocker..antlers wiggle when you 
knock with the nose...more silly steel stuff..pf


Bruce Freeman wrote:
> Read it again, Andy.
> 
> He was complaining that it was his Constitutional
> right to bear arms, and to wear neither seat belt nor
> motorcycle helmet.
> 
> I was contrasting that against what I consider rather
> important Constitutional guarantees that, I believe
> you agree, the current President chooses to ignore.
> 
> I suppose that's what happens when you elect a
> president who was stoned on cocaine all through HS
> civics class...
> 
> Bruce
> NJ
> 
> --- Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Bruce Freeman wrote:
>>> So,it's okay if W invades Iraq on false pretenses,
>>> denies Constitutional and Geneva Convention
>>> protections to prisoners, wiretaps you and
>> everybody
>>> else, and your sends your kids off to kill people.
>>> All that's okay...
>> 	
>> 	Eh?  I must have missed something because I cannot
>> for the life of me 
>> see how you come to those inferences, based on what
>> Bob wrote.
>>> ...As long as you can smoke your lungs out, buy
>> guns,
>>> and avoid wearing seat belts and motorcycle
>> helmets.
>>
>> 	Ah... OK, I see.  Uh...  no.
>>> That's quite a vigil!
>>>
>>> Somehow, my vision of America seems divergent from
>>> yours.
>> 	I think you are talking past each other and this is
>> not surprising 
>> because these are perennial hot button issues that
>> seem to have the 
>> magical ability to cause people to abandon their
>> faculties, their reason 
>> in particular.  I cannot speak for Bob, but I would
>> bet that he has not 
>> implied anything you assert.  But I will agree with
>> you that Americans, 
>> by and large, aren't worth wiping your ass with in
>> terms of putting 
>> their money (or muscle) where their mouths are.  I'm
>> probably on of 
>> those.  I watch year after year go by as this
>> government imposes ever 
>> tighter and more draconian restrictions upon us as
>> the corporate 
>> fascists take over, yet for all the complaining I
>> see no substantive 
>> action taken.  We get what we deserve, and if we as
>> a nation fall fully 
>> into slavery, we will have nobody to blame but
>> ourselves.  The shame of 
>> it that had we take n our heads out of our assholes
>> 27 years ago and put 
>> the simpleton Reagan and his fascist c handlers in
>> their places, we 
>> might be enjoying a far better life than we do.  And
>> with every year 
>> that passes in self-absorption or apathy, we come
>> closer and closer to 
>> the need to take up arms in order to restore
>> ourselves, if even the will 
>> shall ever exist again to do so.  Talking would be a
>> lot easier than 
>> shooting.
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