On Jun 17, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Bruce Freeman wrote: > (noting that 'SOR' > does NOT apply to pipe), I never "SOR" anyway. I just go straight to "S" and draw away. I think "SOR" might have some good reasons if forging 3" stock but for forging 3/4" and down to a smaller size "SOR" seems a waste of time. BTW I am using a powerhammer. Bob