[TheForge] Foundry heat source

Sun Feb 11 04:00:10 EST 2007

Craig,

I want to make two or three of these burners, and they
will be outside a lot of the time. My casting area
will be a big sand pile with a steel roof over head
during the summer months and then I will put sides on
it as the fall comes around. This will be a pole barn
of sorts.

I know that I will have to "warm up" stuff that has
been out doors for a while. 

behind the barn is 50 sheets of 4' x 12' corrugated
steel roofing to work into building where needed. I
will get my 4 x 4 posts from the Amish mill down the
road. I figure if I tar up the post where I will
concreting them in to ground that will keep them from
rotting.  

Jerry

--- Craig Schaefer <craig.schaefer at verizon.net> wrote:

> Agreed, you need 'proper' combustion.  I have one of
> the HF burners in 
> question.  Never have used it as a forge burner, but
> I have made several of 
> my own forge burners and it isn't rocket science.  
> Couple of reducing bells 
> and iron pipe and a #59 or so drill bit and I have a
> couple of burners that 
> can melt steel in a 10x36 pipe forge.   My point
> wasn't to say you were 
> wrong, but to try out a $20 weed burner instead of
> running out and investing 
> in hundreds of dollars worth of burners before you
> know what you need. 
> Does my forge make efficient use of propane?  Likely
> not as the forge is 
> stored outside, in the rain and I have to burn the
> water out of the kaowool 
> before it gets hot, but it does get hot and that's
> what it's about-- getting 
> started!
> 
> CraigS
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Horgan" <lughaid at earthlink.net>
> To: "Craig Schaefer" <craig.schaefer at verizon.net>;
> "Sponsored by ABANA" 
> <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 4:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Foundry heat source
> 
> 
> > In free air, for which the weed burners are
> designed, maybe. When trying 
> > to inject heat into a forge or casting furnace,
> with back pressure, the 
> > ability to tune your burner for proper combustion
> makes an enormous 
> > difference. If you're nearby and want to try the
> difference, I still have 
> > a weed burner left, still in the plastic.
> >
> > At 02:33 PM 2/10/2007, you wrote:
> >>Seems to me that no matter which burner you use,
> propane will still burn 
> >>at the same temperature.  It's all a question of
> how you're going to 
> >>corral that heat and concentrate it, and how MUCH
> propane you're going to 
> >>burn. The HF burners get damn hot and will easily
> power a forge or furnace 
> >>designed to use them.
> >>
> >>CraigS
> >>Gresham, OR
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael
> Horgan" 
> >><lughaid at earthlink.net>
> >>To: "Sponsored by ABANA"
> <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> >>Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:08 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Foundry heat source
> >>
> >>
> >>>Nope, forget the Harbor Fright burners.  Take a
> look at Rex's burners at 
> >>>http://www.hybridburners.com/ if you don't want
> to build your own,  or at 
> >>>Ron Reil's site at
> http://ronreil.abana.org/Forge1.shtml for do it 
> >>>yourself. Note, follow Ron's directions exactly
> for a great burner, on 
> >>>modifying it you can get a good or ok burner.
> >>>Mike Porter's Book is great as well. Again rtfm
> and follow instructions 
> >>>exactly for the best results.
> >>>
> >>>At 11:25 AM 2/10/2007, you wrote:
> >>>>I am working on building a small aluminum
> foundry in
> >>>>my back field. I will probably have a ton of
> sand
> >>>>delievered to form the base of hot area.
> >>>>
> >>>>What I am looking for is a heat source to get to
> the
> >>>>temperature for melting many metals, around 1700
> >>>>degrees F. I was thinking about using two or
> three
> >>>>propane and something like these torches from
> HF:
> >>>>
>
>>>>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=91033
> >>>>
> >>>>I can get the cauldrons and some of the other
> things.
> >>>>And propane is very do able out here in the
> country.
> >>>>
> >>>>If some one has a better heat source that I can
> buy or
> >>>>build I would be interested. I was thinking
> about one
> >>>>with a blower for air, I have seen porpane
> forges
> >>>>built that way.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>Jerry
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