[TheForge] Foundry heat source

[Craig Schaefer]

Agreed, you need 'proper' combustion.  I have one of the HF burners in 
question.  Never have used it as a forge burner, but I have made several of 
my own forge burners and it isn't rocket science.   Couple of reducing bells 
and iron pipe and a #59 or so drill bit and I have a couple of burners that 
can melt steel in a 10x36 pipe forge.   My point wasn't to say you were 
wrong, but to try out a $20 weed burner instead of running out and investing 
in hundreds of dollars worth of burners before you know what you need. 
Does my forge make efficient use of propane?  Likely not as the forge is 
stored outside, in the rain and I have to burn the water out of the kaowool 
before it gets hot, but it does get hot and that's what it's about-- getting 
started!

CraigS




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Horgan" <lughaid at earthlink.net>
To: "Craig Schaefer" <craig.schaefer at verizon.net>; "Sponsored by ABANA" 
<theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Foundry heat source


> In free air, for which the weed burners are designed, maybe. When trying 
> to inject heat into a forge or casting furnace, with back pressure, the 
> ability to tune your burner for proper combustion makes an enormous 
> difference. If you're nearby and want to try the difference, I still have 
> a weed burner left, still in the plastic.
>
> At 02:33 PM 2/10/2007, you wrote:
>>Seems to me that no matter which burner you use, propane will still burn 
>>at the same temperature.  It's all a question of how you're going to 
>>corral that heat and concentrate it, and how MUCH propane you're going to 
>>burn. The HF burners get damn hot and will easily power a forge or furnace 
>>designed to use them.
>>
>>CraigS
>>Gresham, OR
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Horgan" 
>><lughaid at earthlink.net>
>>To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:08 PM
>>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Foundry heat source
>>
>>
>>>Nope, forget the Harbor Fright burners.  Take a look at Rex's burners at 
>>>http://www.hybridburners.com/ if you don't want to build your own,  or at 
>>>Ron Reil's site at http://ronreil.abana.org/Forge1.shtml for do it 
>>>yourself. Note, follow Ron's directions exactly for a great burner, on 
>>>modifying it you can get a good or ok burner.
>>>Mike Porter's Book is great as well. Again rtfm and follow instructions 
>>>exactly for the best results.
>>>
>>>At 11:25 AM 2/10/2007, you wrote:
>>>>I am working on building a small aluminum foundry in
>>>>my back field. I will probably have a ton of sand
>>>>delievered to form the base of hot area.
>>>>
>>>>What I am looking for is a heat source to get to the
>>>>temperature for melting many metals, around 1700
>>>>degrees F. I was thinking about using two or three
>>>>propane and something like these torches from HF:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=91033
>>>>
>>>>I can get the cauldrons and some of the other things.
>>>>And propane is very do able out here in the country.
>>>>
>>>>If some one has a better heat source that I can buy or
>>>>build I would be interested. I was thinking about one
>>>>with a blower for air, I have seen porpane forges
>>>>built that way.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Jerry
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