[TheForge] RE: Deep draw steel Stick rod vs mig

[Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer]

Hi Dave;
Thanks for your response...yes, i'm using tie wire now for that 
reason and it helps a bit.
I've been a low-income ,junkyard sculptor for so many years that 
it's hard for me to spend the money to get deep draw steel 
shipped out here...But given the number of hours i end up 
investing in a given piece, it's clearly false economy ( again) 
on my part.
You are probably pointing me in the right direction...thank you...pf


David E. Smucker wrote:
> Peter,  Have you tried welding deep drawing steel - using TIG and using 
> soft tie wire for the rod.  (tie wire used to tie concrete rebar.)   It 
> is close to the same steel as deep drawing steel.  Using this for rod 
> your parent metal must be very clean because there are no additives in 
> the tie wire --  just plain low carbon steel.
> 
> Dave
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer" 
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> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 3:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] RE: Stick rod vs mig (Larry Brown)
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>> When forging hollow body pieces..synclastic forming sort of stuff 
>> where the steel is really pushed to it's limits....I've had great 
>> difficulty continuing to work previously welded areas.
>> Crack repair most commonly is where i encounter problems.
>> I've tried different kinds of welding (MIG,TIG,stick, gas,), filler 
>> material, prep, post weld grinding, heat treating...most everything i 
>> could think of over the years.
>> Some techniques work better than others, but none work well.
>> I've not been using deep draw steel however.
>> Sure would welcome a solution.
>>
>> tbrforge wrote:
>>>    Larry,
>>>     I  have  noticed  that  Mig  welded then hammered left an 
>>> undercut or
>>>    inclusive  like  zone  around  the  outside  HAZ (heat affected 
>>> zone).
>>>    However,  I  regularly  TIG  joints,  especially on small joints 
>>> and a
>>>    little  hammer  work  blends  the weld almost invisibly. It rivals 
>>> the
>>>    cosmetics of a good forge weld. That is my opinion.
>>>    Terry
>>>    TBRForge
>>>    Athens Ga.
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