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[Jim Beard]

They were arguing about retro-active immunity for any crimes that the
Telcos might have committed while helping the Bush administration
wiretap domestic citizens inside the US without warrants.  The Telcos
are afraid their customers are going to sue them for infringing their
rights, and they and the Bush administration want them to be immune
from lawsuits.  They briefly discussed a 'compromise' where if the
Telco got sued, the US Government would stand in their place in court.
 Not really a compromise if you ask me.

Anyway, listening to Orin Hatch was kind of disgusting.  He just kept
droning on about how corporations need to be able to do what the
government asks them to do with out being afraid that they will get
prosecuted for it, regardless of the legality I guess.  Orin Hatch
never mentioned the private citizens, he just kept saying
'corporation, corporation, corporation, corporation" ad nauseam.

Chris Dodd forced a long debate about the bill, and it was eventually
pulled, and will be re-issued in January, when there is more time to
debate it.

Jim
Eugene, OR


On Dec 19, 2007 4:52 PM, Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net> wrote:
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>
> Jim Beard wrote:
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> > Yesterday, Senators like Orin Hatch were up arguing that corporations
> > bottom lines are more important then an individuals guaranteed
> > constitutional rights.  It sounded like a screw job to me.
>
>         Huh?  What were they saying?
>
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