[TheForge] Blackening Steel

[Woolley]

Thanks Jerry


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Smith" <jerry_smith at anvilsandinkstudios.com>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Blackening Steel


> Bill,
> 
> TSP is Trisodium Phosphate, I use it as a stop bath
> for the etchants I use to bring out the patterns on
> damascus steel.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> --- Woolley <wjec at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>> Jerry ,
>> 
>> I haven't tried any Brownells products.  TSP is an
>> oil based product?  I 
>> usually finish with lacquer, sometimes tongue oil.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jerry Smith"
>> <jerry_smith at anvilsandinkstudios.com>
>> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Blackening Steel
>> 
>> 
>> > Bill,
>> >
>> > Have you tried TSP as your stopping agent? Most
>> > hardware stores have it on hand.
>> >
>> > Have you tried the stuff that Brownells sells, I
>> have
>> > had no problem with all of their stuff. I even
>> learned
>> > how to do electroless nickle that really works
>> from
>> > one of their product lines.
>> >
>> > Jerry
>> >
>> > --- Woolley <wjec at verizon.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Greetings,
>> >>
>> >> I've been using Birchwood Casey Presto Black and
>> >> their blackening gel ( can't remember the name)
>> to
>> >> try to blacken steel. I apply with a sponge
>> soaked
>> >> in the solution full strength.  I stop the agent
>> >> with water, usually from a hose or spray bottle
>> >> depending on the size of the piece. What has been
>> >> happening is before I can dry and finish with a
>> >> clear the pieces have been flash rusting (their
>> >> term). The end results can be very pleasant
>> >> variations of browns and dark greens, not black
>> or
>> >> blue black. I spoke to the company rep about it
>> but
>> >> his suggestions haven't worked. They include not
>> >> stopping the blackening agent with a water hose,
>> >> drying immediately, swabbing it off with a wet
>> >> sponge, using a baking soda- water mix to stop. 
>> Has
>> >> anyone had any experience with these products and
>> >> worked through similiar problems?  I have
>> achieved a
>> >> nice blue black with their products before but
>> not
>> >> in awhile and not with what I remember any
>> different
>> >> method besides the one I describe.  I'm pretty
>> >> frustrated at this point.  Thanks for any help.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Bill Woolley
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