[TheForge] Blackening Steel

[Jerry Smith]

Bill,

TSP is Trisodium Phosphate, I use it as a stop bath
for the etchants I use to bring out the patterns on
damascus steel.

Jerry

--- Woolley <wjec at verizon.net> wrote:

> Jerry ,
> 
> I haven't tried any Brownells products.  TSP is an
> oil based product?  I 
> usually finish with lacquer, sometimes tongue oil.
> 
> Bill
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jerry Smith"
> <jerry_smith at anvilsandinkstudios.com>
> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Blackening Steel
> 
> 
> > Bill,
> >
> > Have you tried TSP as your stopping agent? Most
> > hardware stores have it on hand.
> >
> > Have you tried the stuff that Brownells sells, I
> have
> > had no problem with all of their stuff. I even
> learned
> > how to do electroless nickle that really works
> from
> > one of their product lines.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > --- Woolley <wjec at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> I've been using Birchwood Casey Presto Black and
> >> their blackening gel ( can't remember the name)
> to
> >> try to blacken steel. I apply with a sponge
> soaked
> >> in the solution full strength.  I stop the agent
> >> with water, usually from a hose or spray bottle
> >> depending on the size of the piece. What has been
> >> happening is before I can dry and finish with a
> >> clear the pieces have been flash rusting (their
> >> term). The end results can be very pleasant
> >> variations of browns and dark greens, not black
> or
> >> blue black. I spoke to the company rep about it
> but
> >> his suggestions haven't worked. They include not
> >> stopping the blackening agent with a water hose,
> >> drying immediately, swabbing it off with a wet
> >> sponge, using a baking soda- water mix to stop. 
> Has
> >> anyone had any experience with these products and
> >> worked through similiar problems?  I have
> achieved a
> >> nice blue black with their products before but
> not
> >> in awhile and not with what I remember any
> different
> >> method besides the one I describe.  I'm pretty
> >> frustrated at this point.  Thanks for any help.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Bill Woolley
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