[TheForge] Hydrogen storage (was: Hellooooooo!)

[Dave Overton]

--- Bruce Freeman <FREEMAB at pt.fdah.com> wrote:

> Other technologies than presurization or
> liquification seem more
> promising.  Metal hydrides.  Adsorbed hydrogen.  I'm
> not up on the
> details, but these ideas offer the possibility of
> much denser hydrogen
> storage.
> 
> I suspect, however, that the minute cheap hydrogen
> becomes available,
> someone will come up with a neat method of combining
> it with coal, maybe
> even underground coal, to produce hydrocarbons -
> propane, butane,
> gasoline, or diesel fuel.  This won't fix the
> greenhouse gas problem,
> but will make a hell of a lot more "petroleum"
> available right here in
> the hew hess of hay.
> 
> Bruce
> NJ
> 
> >>> jbin at well.com 5/7/2006 10:18:43 PM >>>
> 
> On May 6, 2006, at 11:36 AM, The Millers wrote:
> 
> > It will drive nuclear power back into the
> forefront. EVEN South  
> > Africa is starting to build graphite core pebble
> bed reactors.
> >
> > I would seriously consider stock in Areva!! They
> are now the leader 
> 
> > in WORLD on nuclear energy.
> >
> > Then we produce hydrogen via electrolysis and run
> our cars on  
> > hydrogen.
> 
> 
> As was pointed out today on another list I am on
> there is a rather  
> significant problem with hydrogen power. It takes
> about 320 cu ft of  
> hydrogen at atmospheric pressure to equal the BTU's
> in a gallon of  
> gasoline. One of the large pressurized gas cylinders
> holds about 300  
> cu ft at 2300 psi you would need 15 of those to be
> about equivalent  
> of 15 gallon gas tank, each one is about 100 lbs
> mass so carrying  
> enough hydrogen to power your car over any
> significant distance is a  
> big logistical problem.  Go to
> http://mb-soft.com/public2/ 
> hydrogen.html and read. There are technologies being
> discussed to  
> make it where you could cary a greater volume of
> hydrogen but I am  
> not feeling wonderful about 5000 psi gas cylinders
> or tanks of liquid 
> 
> hydrogen in my car in an accident.
> 
> It sounds like a great idea but there are some
> significant problems  
> to be overcome before you will be filling up with
> hydrogen
> 
> James Binnion
> jbin at well.com 
> 
> 
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