[TheForge] Re: WAAAAAAAAY OT (while we're talking about buildings and heat)

Justin Fellenz sunironworks at yahoo.com
Sat Mar 25 09:37:41 EST 2006


I don't think I can make it work logistically this time but I will use
it one of these days.

After reading all these posts, I'm leaning toward insulating the 3'
deep frost walls (vertically) and then insulating 2-4 feet around the
walls horizontally. I want to be able to reconfigure, so I don't want
to have to worry if this or that will break my floor. I figger if I can
keep the crush warm I should be ok. Frosty, thanks for the comments on
radiant--I'll look into that. Seems like a very efficient way to heat. 

On the wood heat/creosote issue--I am thinking of modifying my fisher
papa bear stove by running black iron pipe into the top of the firebox
and putting it outside  in a dirt mound, and then running that in
series with the hot water heater. Then if the thing burns, it's not a
big deal, and I'm not interfering with the smoke.

Thanks for all the input, folks.

JRF

--- Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer <artgawk at thegrid.net> wrote:

> JRF:
> I recall reading about some research where they were hearing 
> common garden type sulfur in 55 gal drums to 250 or so F.Then 
> adding plaster of paris ( that had been exposed to air so that it 
> had absorbed some moisture without setting up solid) mixing it 
> in, in handfuls.  Then they stirred  hard.The moisture in the 
> plaster caused the molten sulfur to foam up and they poured it 
> into a pad to go below the cement slab. It cooled and set pretty 
> quick into a stiff, insulating, waterproof insulating foam...PRF
> 
> Justin Fellenz wrote:
> > Another shop build question: does anyone in a colder climate have
> > experience with insulated concrete floors? I'm building my shop
> this
> > spring in Kamloops, BC, where it gets a little cold--not like
> Maine,
> > but cold. Someobody suggested I lay 2 1/2" of polystyrene hard foam
> > under the slab. It's about another 4000 CAD to do it...I'm wndering
> if
> > it's worth the money and whether it decreases the structural
> stability
> > of the slab.
> > 
> > Another person suggested radiant heat (insulation with or without).
> > That's about another 5k and if it breaks it would be a nightmare to
> > fix. But people say it's pretty cool to have nice warm floors.
> Thoughts
> > on that welcome as well.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > JRF
> > 
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