[TheForge] searching for black-galvanized chain

[Brian Hall]

Great News! I found a local distributer who ordered me
the chain - cheaper than buying chain and patinating
it myself for materials alone.

Thanks for the offers of help everyone!

Brian

--- Grover Richardson
<grover.richardson at gtri.gatech.edu> wrote:

> Hmm.  Just now reading this email, as I was not
> reading the thread.
> 
> My side work makes black galvanized items.  I think
> that they drop the
> galvanized items into nitric acid to turn them
> black.  I can check. They
> then seal them.  As these items are galvanized, the
> zinc doesn't have much
> hardness for wear resistance, but it certainly looks
> pretty.  If you want, I
> can send you the info for this place (Marietta
> Georgia), or you could find a
> plating shop locally that does the same.
> 
> Or, if they paint, they need to cure the surface
> with vinegar.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >*>-----Original Message-----
> >*>From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
> >*>[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
> Behalf Of Brian Hall
> >*>Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 8:58 AM
> >*>To: Sponsored by ABANA
> >*>Subject: Re: [TheForge] searching for
> black-galvanized chain
> >*>
> >*>
> >*>I agree with you that I don't want to spend alot
> of
> >*>time experimenting;thats a reason I don't want to
> try
> >*>making my own patina as some have suggested. I
> was
> >*>hoping to find black galvanized chain... If I
> can't I
> >*>will see about spray painting it onsite, but I
> have a
> >*>feeling I will try the Triple S (they do have a
> >*>sealer).
> >*>
> >*>I hav used commerical patinas for other things
> and
> >*>have not really been satisfied, but I think a big
> >*>difference here is that on this job, I just want
> to
> >*>dye it black (so slight differences in color
> won't
> >*>really be noticed, especially on chain).
> >*>
> >*>Brian
> >*>
> >*>--- Woolley <wjec at verizon.net> wrote:
> >*>
> >*>> Brian,
> >*>> 
> >*>> IMO if this is an exterior job, you are
> definitely
> >*>> barking up the wrong tree
> >*>> trying to use patinizing chemicals such as you
> would
> >*>> find from Triple S, Sur 
> >*>> Fin or Sculpt Nouveau.  If they want a rust
> >*>> resistant finish, why not go 
> >*>> with a good paint?  Or if you want to galvanize
> >*>> first, just make sure you 
> >*>> choose a paint that won't react with the zinc
> etc.
> >*>> If you try to patinate 
> >*>> with a blackening agent such as Birchwood
> -Casey
> >*>> after you galvanize I don't 
> >*>> think it will even work .Consider that you
> would
> >*>> need to clear coat to seal 
> >*>> as well. Sculpt Nouveau makes material that you
> can
> >*>> use to patinate almost 
> >*>> any substrate but it is a coating that can be
> >*>> chipped off, not what I think 
> >*>> you are looking for.  Don't forget the time and
> >*>> effort to experiment with 
> >*>> whatever chemicals you choose.  In my
> experience
> >*>> using blackening agents and 
> >*>> the like there was a learning curve no matter
> what
> >*>> info you get from the 
> >*>> makers of the material and were always used for
> >*>> interior pieces.  My 2 
> >*>> cents.  Good luck.
> >*>> 
> >*>> Regards,
> >*>> Bill Woolley
> >*>> 
> >*>> 
> >*>> >I am doing a repair job on a local, old
> cemetery.
> >*>> The
> >*>> > commission wants me to run very
> rust-resistant
> >*>> chain
> >*>> > between granite posts. The chain will be 3/8"
> >*>> stock,
> >*>> > 250' long. So the question is...
> >*>> >
> >*>> > I was hoping to find a place that sells
> >*>> > black-galvanized chain but was unable to find
> any
> >*>> via
> >*>> > the web. I called local galvanizers but the
> cost
> >*>> was
> >*>> > going to be very expensive. So does anyone
> know
> >*>> where
> >*>> > I can get "pre-made" black galvanized chain?
> >*>> >
> >*>> > If I cant find anyplace, I plan on using
> regular 
> >*>silver-galvanized 
> >*>> > and dye it with "Triblack G"
> >*>> which
> >*>> > is designed to patina galvanize black. Does
> anyone
> >*>> > have good/bad experience with this stuff?
> >*>> >
> >*>> > Alternately if I could find some plastic
> coated
> >*>> stuff
> >*>> > like McMaster-Carr sells in black (all they
> have
> >*>> is
> >*>> > green) that would probably work too.
> >*>> >
> >*>> >
> >*>> > Thanks alot for your help,
> >*>> > Brian
> >*>> > -frozen in Massachusetts!
> >*>> >
> >*>> >
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