[TheForge] How is something like this made?

[Steve Smith]

Folks, if you have the tooling and either a big, dumb apprentice or a 
power hammer, it is way faster and easier to forge these things than to 
cast them. Minutes to get up to temperature, a few heats and you're done.

Steve

Demon Buddha wrote:

> Casting really isn't suited to saws.  The grain structure isn't optimal. 
>  One thing you *could* do is do a partial-birth casting.  Object is cast 
> in a form that would then be forged to completion.  For example, you 
> could have areas with art figures cast in place but the bow or frame 
> would be short, thick, and stubby.  The frame would then be forged into 
> final shape, giving that structural component the requisite strength.
> 
> Oh, as to the "partial-birth" thing... I was thinking partial-birth 
> abortion... morbid, yes, but I don't know the proper technical term for 
> a forged casting, so I made up my own. :)
> 
> Rick wrote:
> 
>> I may not be an expert, but after having seen Tom Latane' at work, 
>> there is no question in my mind how a true craftsman at forging would 
>> make those saws, etc. and I am quite sure they were forged.  This is 
>> not really as terribly hard as it may seem to the uninformed.  A true 
>> master could reproduce those readily.  (I won't say easily, as I can't 
>> see it being that easy, but I am NOT any kind of a master, only a 
>> part-timer at this game.)
>>
>>> From what I have seen of James Binnions work, I am sure also that he 
>>> knows 
>>
>>
>> what he is speaking of.
>>
>> Rick Crawford at Rafter Lazy C
>>  Home of Smoky Forge and Lem the Wonder Mule
>>   In the middle of Northern Illinois
>>
>>    http://www.smokyforge.com
>>     rick at smokyforge.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Binnion" <jbin at well.com>
>> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 1:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] How is something like this made?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 17, 2006, at 6:31 PM, Mike Porter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jeff,
>>>> Historically speaking then: the design is Victorian era, when  
>>>> casting was
>>>> king.
>>>> Mikey
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes but cast iron is useless for this kind of thing. Cast steel was  
>>> not really happening at that time. Those items were forged chiseled  
>>> and filed to shape.
>>>
>>> James Binnion
>>> jbin at well.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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