[TheForge] bronze mig with tig etc

[Woolley]

Ok, I guess I'll just go ahead and say it,  why would anyone want to tig 
weld with a mig gun?  I can just picture trying to put a nice clean weld 
onto something nice with a mig gun in my hand?????????????



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Frost" <frosty at customcpu.com>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] bronze


> Morning Ralph: (AK time of course. <grin>)
>
> CC/CV or whatever, it's a "field expedient" that "will" work. As most of 
> us know anything can be MADE to work; regardless if it's the best or even 
> a reasonable alternative to using the right tool.
>
> Anyway, I'm not pulling anybody's leg, a mig gun can be converted to a tig 
> torch. It isn't ideal but it will work. I didn't come up with it but was 
> embarassed I didn't think of giving it a try before it was suggested on 
> the list. (Artmetal if I recall correctly)
>
> I gave it a try with my Hobart 120 Handler just to see if it'd work and it 
> did ok. It wasn't like using a real tig torch; controlling heat was a 
> matter of the separation of the tig tip from the work and the Handler 
> doesn't really have the poop for it. It did weld SS alright but I doubt 
> it'd have the poop for AL or CU alloys. Heck, I'd bet money the Handler 
> doesn't have the power for low resistence alloys in any practical sense.
>
> However, if you have a welder with decent power you should be able to weld 
> CU alloys okay.
>
> Frosty
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> From: "Ralph Sproul" <brhlbsmt at mcttelecom.com>
>
>
>>
>> Frosty, I've never tried this as I always thought CC was tig and CV was
>> mig.
>>
>> ...........Or, are you just pulling our collective legs?
>>
>> Your saying that the mig welder will read the resistance of the tungsten
>> and adjust it's heat as it would for wire melting at a certain point in 
>> the
>> arc - thus giving you an arc you can maintain to do something with?  I'm
>> trying to figure how the Voltage panel in the welder reads what is 
>> usually
>> the wire being fed to drive the current up and keep it constant at the
>> Voltage setting it's put at.
>>
>> It sure makes sense that you've got the gas shielding solenoid in the
>> welder and the gun nozzle for shielding - Cool....... now there's 
>> something
>> else I gotta try so I can consider my life complete.
>>
>> It also makes sense that the setting is so high for copper alloys with 
>> Tig
>> that you would be worried about blow thru like with steel and stainless 
>> if
>> you selected a voltage to high to start with.
>>
>> Keeping up with Frosty is a very educational endeavour.........I just
>> wonder how bored you were up there to try this out (and was it with your
>> welder? or someone else's - the first time??) :-)
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> PS, I have heard you can braze with an air arc torch on Stainless with
>> brazing rod (with marginal success & with the air OFF of course).........
>> But, you probably knew that.    ;-)
>>
>>
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