[TheForge] Welding Rod

Ron Childers munlaw2 at hcsmail.com
Fri Jun 9 06:54:07 EDT 2006


Dan is right about 7018- Hygroscopic; sucks up water like a camel. The
little round plastic cylinders in which welders store their rods do nothing
but keep out the rain. Even working inside a fabrication plant the rods are
changed twice per shift because of their propensity for moisture. They are,
however, low hydrogen which reduces cracking at the weld. 

-----Original Message-----
From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dan Tull
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:41 PM
To: Sponsored by ABANA
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Welding Rod

7018 runs much better on dc.
7014 (as an all-position rod) runs fabulous on ac.
7018 is low hydrogen(an open box is an empty box), and is used for mat'l 
over 1/2" tk. and on inspected welds.
6011-12 probably only need the flux chipped off the tip to aid striking, an 
are quick freeze, hot, rods.
6013 is hobbiest rod.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick" <rick at smokyforge.com>
To: <munlaw2 at hcsmail.com>; "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Welding Rod


> Oh boy, am I a goof some days.  I sent this off before going to work this 
> morning, and now I see I didn't really ask the question I wanted to. 
> "What is the real difference between 7014 and 7018?"  I have trouble with 
> my little AC buzz box running small rod. It doesn't stay on one setting 
> well any more and since it is about as old as I am (or at least 50, which 
> is close enough) I can't fault it  too much.  I put a bungee cord around 
> it to sort of hold the adjustment still.  I have lots of trouble getting 
> the stick to start when I am running 6011 or 6013.  With the 7014 I had, I

> had no trouble at all.  It just ran  and did a great job.  Is it just me 
> or is that just the way that rod is?
>
> Thanks,
> Rick Crawford at Rafter Lazy C
>  Home of Smoky Forge and Lem the Wonder Mule
>   In the middle of Northern Illinois
>
>    http://www.smokyforge.com
>     rick at smokyforge.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Childers" <munlaw2 at hcsmail.com>
> To: <munlaw2 at hcsmail.com>; "'Sponsored by ABANA'" 
> <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:26 AM
> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Welding Rod
>
>
> Rick,
>
> Check the end of the rod that goes in the electrode holder and clean off 
> the
> rust- 6010 (5P) or 6011 should work when wet- you may have to run a bit
> hotter... 6010 is for DC reverse polarity. They will work on AC if run at
> more heat than used with 6011.
>
> Ron Childers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron Childers
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:40 AM
> To: 'Sponsored by ABANA'
> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Welding Rod
>
> E6011= 60k psi ts AC or DC + or - all position, general purpose - Works on
> dirty or rusted metal. E7014= 70K psi ts AC or DC + or- all position- used
> for lap & fillet welds- likes a clean surface. Google Lincoln consumables.
> You can get a brochure listing the rods and general information about 
> each.
>
> Ron Childers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rick
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 7:52 AM
> To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [TheForge] Welding Rod
>
> Hi folks -
>
>    I am in the midst of a dilemma.  I used to weld every day, and got
> pretty good at it, but never learned about picking out which rod to use. 
> (I
>
> was primarily a layout man and only welded to fill in.)  I have heard 7018
> touted as a good all around rod.  I had some 7014 rod here that was 
> probably
>
> 10-12 years old and never in a rod cabinet, since I don't have one.  It 
> also
>
> gets quite humid here in the summer.  That 7014 rod worked great the other
> day when I used it.  The 6011 or 6013 I had wouldn't work near as well.
>
>    Can someone tell me what the letters mean?  I know the first tells
> tensile strength, but what do the others mean?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick Crawford at Rafter Lazy C
>  Home of Smoky Forge and Lem the Wonder Mule
>   In the middle of Northern Illinois
>
>    http://www.smokyforge.com
>     rick at smokyforge.com
>
>
>
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