[TheForge] Murphy strikes again. But fails!
Darrell
darrell67 at machinemaster.com
Tue Feb 21 02:32:43 EST 2006
If ALL of the stove pipe is insulated it won't creosote up near as much as
one that has cool air on thin metal causing the creosote to condense.
Darrell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Frost" <frosty at customcpu.com>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:12 PM
Subject: [TheForge] Murphy strikes again. But fails!
> Okay, so it's really the "non-reciprocating law" more than Murphy's law.
You
> know the one that says, "If you talk about something bad it'll happen and
if
> you talk about something good it'll NEVER happen?" Yeah, that's the one.
>
> Remember a little while ago we were talking about chimney creosote? I was
at
> work today, yeah, I know it's president's day and working for the state I
> get it off but there's a lot of stuff to clean up after the last couple
> weeks weather and a little OT is always a good thing. . . Uh, where was
I?
> Oh yeah. Work, Jay and I are taking morning break and my cell rings with
the
> distinctive "home" ring. It's Deb. Cool! I like talking to my sweetie.
>
> "Hi sweetheart," I say brightly.
>
> "I think we have a chimney fire," she says without preamble, warning or
any
> other attempt at softening the news or shielding me from harsh reality.
"The
> elbow on the stove is orange," she continues with no attempt whatsoever at
> reassuring me. "What do I do?"
>
> Can YOU feel the adrenaline rush? The single wall adjustable elbow we need
> to get the stove to makeup to the stack is maybe, MAYBE a minute from
> failing all together. The Metalbestos triple wall pipe from there to the
> roof will hold, probably (PROBABLY) till the creosote burns itself out but
> NOT the elbow.
>
> Okay, it's do or die and there's maybe a couple minutes of window to fight
> this thing so I start talking Deb through killing a stack fire. First shot
> is a 2lb. box of baking soda aimed at the draw gap in the internal baffle.
I
> can HEAR it roaring over the phone, I hear it muffle for maybe ten seconds
> then clear out and start roaring again.
>
> By now I had my head out of my ass and sent her for the fire extinguisher;
> much closer than the soda had been but soda was the first thing I thought
> of. I talked her through using the extinguisher which has been sitting
next
> to the front door for some eight years now and though I take a look at the
> gage every so often I hadn't knocked the chemical loose. Ever. So, I tell
> her how to bang it on the floor to unpack the dry chem, pull the pin and
aim
> it at the draw gap in the baffle.
>
> Of course I forgot to tell her to give it quick burps so I hear the
gurgley
> roar of the extinguisher for maybe five seconds before she lets go of it.
> She can't hear me yelling at her to stop but the dry chem blasting back in
> her face convinces her to give it a break. Okay, so I tell her to just
fire
> half second bursts and let the draft draw the chem up the stack and after
> half a dozen bursts have her shut the stove up again.
>
> No joy. CRAP it's not as hot but the roar is picking back up. Not quickly
> and it's stuttering but it's picking back up regardless. I send her for
> water and have her start throwing a cup at a time into the stove and
> slamming the door in between. I tell her to keep doing it and call 911. I
> hang up.
>
> Jay's sitting on the other side of the truck, motionless, looking at me
with
> the same expression a passenger in an out of control car gets. BAD SHIT is
> happening and there's not a single damned thing he can do but not distract
> me and hang on.
>
> Of course my cell starts beeping "dead battery" so I won't be able to
check
> on Deb. #^#&^#%#*$& !!!!! I grab the radio and shout for Sue, my foreman,
> and tell her what's up and that I'm heading for the barn and maybe home.
Jay
> doesn't need me to say anything to bail. I head for the shop. I don't know
> if Jay said anything to me. Probably but I don't remember.
>
> About 15 mins later I roll in. It's normally it's a 20-25 min drive from
> where we were to the shop. I didn't "speed" or do anything reckless, I
just
> took every advantage I safely could. Working for the State has definite
> advantages, while I can't blow through stop signs and red lights, I can
> legally run them if it's safe, IF it's "job" related. So, at every red
> light, I hit the strobes, picked a gap and ran it.
>
> I get to the shop and phone home. The FD is there, it's all okay. Deb and
I
> managed to pull the fire's teeth and the FD finished it off. During her
call
> to 911 and the three minutes it took the FD to cover the two miles and get
> there she dilligently threw cups of water in the stove every 30 secs or
> minute or so. Even so, it tried to take off again while the FD was
watching.
>
> I finished the day at work though the adrenaline hangover had my stomach
> churning and me babbling. Can you imagine it? ME babbling? <grin> After an
> hour or so and a bite to eat i was okay. In fact I'm still feeling the
> "disaster survived" high I always get dodging a bullet.
>
> Well, I got home a little while ago and though the house smells of wood
> smoke and hot metal everything's okay. The steel elbow is blistered where
it
> was hottest and the seam is bulged, starting to separate. Maybe a minute
> from collapse, MAYBE. I figured out what the problem is too. The stove,
for
> all it's faults is air tight, the fire should've gone out or at least
slowed
> WAY down when Deb shut the door but it didn't. It wasn't the stove though,
> nope it was the joint where the adjustable elbow makes up with the
> telescoping double wall pipe. (intermediary between the stove and triple
> wall metalbestos pipe) There was a little gap where air was able to get
in.
> It's a gap large enough to slip my little finger in right now, it grew.
>
> That won't happen again. That joint will get gasket rope chinked into it
and
> the swiveling joints in the adjustable elbow will get a wrap of muffler
> tape. All new parts of course and maybe an all new stack. If I have to
> replace the stack, it'll get encased in double sheetrock and wrapped with
> Kaowool. Overkill? Maybe. HAH!
>
> You might be wondering how often we clean our stack. We have the recipt
from
> the chimney sweep dated six weeks ago. I usually sweep the stack myself
but
> having that recipt once a year makes the insurance Co. happier, especially
> if they have to pay off. We already pay the premium for a wood stove and
> having it professionally swept saves some.
>
> I don't think we'll be using those guys again. Heck, I'm thinking the
sweep
> is going to be paying for the inspection and maybe damages even if I have
to
> take him to court. We'll have the fire chief's incident report and the
> inspector's report to back us in court. Everything else was good: two year
> old, cut and split wood, sans bark, proper fire habits, we don't burn
paper,
> presto logs, etc. etc. There shouldn't have been enough creosote built up
to
> burn in just six weeks.
>
> I'm happier than I can express to be sitting here tonight at my own
> computer, in our home with all our pets and possessions alive and intact.
> (if dusty <grin>)
>
> Frosty
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