[TheForge] OT: several questions and thoughts

[Demon Buddha]

schade at acegroup.cc wrote:
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> On Feb 3, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Demon Buddha wrote:
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>>     Ah, but here you raise a different point.  One pays what the 
>> market will bear.  If nobody will clean sewage for $5/hr, you will 
>> have to offer more.  That's the FREE in freemarket.  But if there is a 
>> union that prevents people on the street who are willing to do that 
>> work for that money from taking the position, that is obstruction of 
>> free trade and anyone engaging in it should get his ass beat real fine.
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> The bosses love it when the little guys argue
> over who gets the nickel and who gets the dime
> while they take wheelbarrow loads of $100 bills
> right out the front door.

	So what if they are wheeling out barrows full of $100 bills?  I say 
good for them as long as they did it within the dictates of the law. 
Working hard, smart, and succeeding is not a crime to anyone except the 
parasites who won't lift a finger past punching the time clock, but who 
covet what the "bosses" have.  I'm not quite sure where you're coming 
from with this.

	Remember that in public companies the shareholders are the actual 
owners.  Those owners hire other people to manage the business (CEO, 
controller, etc.).  Those managers, in whose hands the running of the 
company has been entrusted, hire others to do the various tasks that 
comprise the overall business operation.  Employment is at will.  I hire 
you at a wage to do job X.  If you do the job well, perhaps you stay. 
If you do not like your wage, you are free to speak with your supervisor 
about it.  The firm is free to change or not change your wage.  You are 
free to leave the firm at any time you wish, assuming you are not under 
contract and the company is not in breach. There is nothing mysterious 
here, and there is nothing that would even remotely indicate that any 
person, from the janitor up to the CEO, has any RIGHT whatsoever to work 
at the company, the exception being conditions of explicit contract. 
Companies are legally obliged to safeguard the rights of their workers, 
and so it should be.  But they are not obliged to provide them with a 
living under any circumstance whatsoever.  The firm and the employee 
come to an agreement as to wages and conditions of employment and go 
from there.  For an employee to start crying foul after the handshake is 
disingenuous at best.  I'd fire him in a second.  If a union was voted 
in, I'd shut down operations if so authorized.  Nobody strong arms me, 
especially given that I believe in treating employees very well.  But 
"well" has limits and putting the company under because one wishes to be 
a "nice guy" makes no sense.

	The fact is that many American workers have an extremely distorted idea 
of their place in the world as workers.  The attitude of entitlement is 
a poison that has done this nation incalculable harm and may be the end 
of us yet, as a strong and vibrant nation.