[TheForge] Learning to weld

[Ron Childers]

Dave,

It was easy to teach my grandson to weld; in less than an hour he was
welding brackets with 6011 and a buzz box. The mig welder spoiled him
though. He is now a combat engineer in Iraq where he breaks things and
repairs things. The military has some neat equipment.

The point is as Peter mentioned, he had no preconceived notions or behaviors
to unlearn as do us old buzzards. If you will purge your mind of
nonessential thought and bad karma I promise I can have you doing decent
stick welding on flat work in a few minutes. The out-of-position techniques
do take some practice, but you obviously have the coordination so you can
weld with anything. Yes, gas welding is alive and well, though it isn't used
on pipelines any more.

Ron C



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[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Fels And Phoebe
Palmer
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 12:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [TheForge] TIG welding -- was trade secrets

I find that my deeply ingrained gas welding habits are a major 
nuisance when TIG welding. Can't believe how often i still dunk 
the electrode trying to push the puddle around. Still have way 
more control with a torch....pf

martin paietta wrote:
> I totally agree with you about the Gas welding transferring over to TIG.
> Actually they do still teach Gas welding in schools. That was one of the
> first things I learned. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David E. Smucker
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 10:48 AM
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> Subject: Re: [TheForge] TIG welding -- was trade secrets
> 
> TIG welding is magic and not hard to learn IF you have first learned to
gas
> weld.  That I know is a big IF.  I started out learning to torch braze and
> gas weld.  Learning the use of both hands and when it came to TIG welding
it
> came easy.  I can't stick weld worth a damn -- just haven't done enough of
> it.  That is the key, practice, practice and more practice.  Not sure they
> teach anyone to gas weld anymore.
> 
> Dave Smucker
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "martin paietta" <mpaietta at iglide.net>
> To: "'Sponsored by ABANA'" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 12:32 AM
> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Re: trade secrets
> 
> 
>> Wow. I have been doing TIG for about two years now and it does not help 
>> just
>> watching. I actually am in class for TIG pipe welding. It is a pain in
the
>> ass and just watching someone doesn't help. It takes a ton of practice. 
>> Well
>> know that I think about it there are a couple of things that we were
shown
>> that did make it easier, but unless you were already fairly good at TIG
it
>> would not really help.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Martin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Woolley
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:42 PM
>> To: Sponsored by ABANA
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Re: trade secrets
>>
>>
>>>> Many years ago (Early 70's) I was cutting out of school and working in
>>>> a body shop, mainly sanding cars, and I used to watch this old guy who
>>>> came to do the lead work on the old classic cars. I watched him a
>>>> couple of times and he came over and yelled at me ........
>>
>> I started working as a boilermaker in 1974, pretty much right out of high
>> school.  I started out in a small boiler repair shop, then oil refineries

>> on
>> big turnarounds when an inexperienced kid could be of some help, then 
>> power
>> plants, mostly coal fired boilers. When I started meeting and getting to
>> know some of the older guys who had been in the business since the 50's 
>> they
>> told me that if you approached Tig welders working on a tube repair or
>> replacement they would just stop working till you left so that you 
>> wouldn't
>> see the process.  Weldors have always been more valuable than mechanics 
>> and
>> riggers etc to the contractors cause they always assumed a weldor could 
>> also
>> do their work. Tig weldors even more so.  Thus they protected their 
>> special
>> station within the field as long as they could.  That hasn't been the
case
>> since I became involved but it's part of  field contruction history in
the
>> Philadelphia area and probably in many other areas of the country.
>>
>> Best,
>> Bill Woolley
>>
>>
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