[TheForge] TIG welding -- was trade secrets

Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer artgawk at thegrid.net
Fri Dec 8 00:52:51 EST 2006


I find that my deeply ingrained gas welding habits are a major 
nuisance when TIG welding. Can't believe how often i still dunk 
the electrode trying to push the puddle around. Still have way 
more control with a torch....pf

martin paietta wrote:
> I totally agree with you about the Gas welding transferring over to TIG.
> Actually they do still teach Gas welding in schools. That was one of the
> first things I learned. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David E. Smucker
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 10:48 AM
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> Subject: Re: [TheForge] TIG welding -- was trade secrets
> 
> TIG welding is magic and not hard to learn IF you have first learned to gas
> weld.  That I know is a big IF.  I started out learning to torch braze and
> gas weld.  Learning the use of both hands and when it came to TIG welding it
> came easy.  I can't stick weld worth a damn -- just haven't done enough of
> it.  That is the key, practice, practice and more practice.  Not sure they
> teach anyone to gas weld anymore.
> 
> Dave Smucker
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "martin paietta" <mpaietta at iglide.net>
> To: "'Sponsored by ABANA'" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 12:32 AM
> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Re: trade secrets
> 
> 
>> Wow. I have been doing TIG for about two years now and it does not help 
>> just
>> watching. I actually am in class for TIG pipe welding. It is a pain in the
>> ass and just watching someone doesn't help. It takes a ton of practice. 
>> Well
>> know that I think about it there are a couple of things that we were shown
>> that did make it easier, but unless you were already fairly good at TIG it
>> would not really help.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Martin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Woolley
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:42 PM
>> To: Sponsored by ABANA
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Re: trade secrets
>>
>>
>>>> Many years ago (Early 70's) I was cutting out of school and working in
>>>> a body shop, mainly sanding cars, and I used to watch this old guy who
>>>> came to do the lead work on the old classic cars. I watched him a
>>>> couple of times and he came over and yelled at me ........
>>
>> I started working as a boilermaker in 1974, pretty much right out of high
>> school.  I started out in a small boiler repair shop, then oil refineries 
>> on
>> big turnarounds when an inexperienced kid could be of some help, then 
>> power
>> plants, mostly coal fired boilers. When I started meeting and getting to
>> know some of the older guys who had been in the business since the 50's 
>> they
>> told me that if you approached Tig welders working on a tube repair or
>> replacement they would just stop working till you left so that you 
>> wouldn't
>> see the process.  Weldors have always been more valuable than mechanics 
>> and
>> riggers etc to the contractors cause they always assumed a weldor could 
>> also
>> do their work. Tig weldors even more so.  Thus they protected their 
>> special
>> station within the field as long as they could.  That hasn't been the case
>> since I became involved but it's part of  field contruction history in the
>> Philadelphia area and probably in many other areas of the country.
>>
>> Best,
>> Bill Woolley
>>
>>
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