[TheForge] Induction Forge? How much power does it take to run it?

[Ron Childers]

Steve Smith and Steve Kane, 

I'm sure there would be enough interest- How big a generator does it take?
I'm only a peon, but I'll talk to the conference committee chairman about
renting one if that would work.

Ron Childers

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Steve Smith
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:50 PM
To: Sponsored by ABANA
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Induction Forge?

Is there enough interest for someone to rent a generator?

So Steve, how come the red hot bar in the picture of your unit doesn't 
short out the coil? (Anvilfire news page 2)

Thanks,
Steve

Steve Kayne wrote:

> Unfortunately Barberville does not have power to operate the Induction 
> Forge.  We are as upset as anyone as we were very interested in 
> demonstrating it formerly and informerly.  I doubt that it will happen 
> at Barberville even in the future as the electrical situation just is 
> not there.
> 
> We hope to be able to demonstrate it in Texas, at Grapevine.  Our 
> experience is that they have the necessary 220 single phase and are very 
> willing to hook us up.
> 
> There is the possibility that we may be able to operate it at Madison, Ga.
> 
> We very much wanted to demo it and FABA wanted us to do it.  It is just 
> not in the cards.    A few FABA people have arrived at our shop and seen 
> it in operation and that's led to the groundswell to show it 
> Barberville.  We just don't get what we want every time.  Thats life.
> 
> Wish you could see it.  It's magic.  Jock Dempsey should have photos 
> from our meeting and my two hour demo up somewhere - Anvilfire or our 
> site in the next few days.
> 
> Steve Kayne
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Childers" <munlaw2 at hcsmail.com>
> To: "'Sponsored by ABANA'" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:24 AM
> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Induction Forge?
> 
> 
> Steve Kane, are you going to bring an induction forge to the conference at
> Barberville, Florida October 20-22?
> 
> Thanx, Ron Childers
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Steve Kayne
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:53 PM
> To: Sponsored by ABANA
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Induction Forge?
> 
> We have been using the induction forge in our shop for a few months now
and
> it is magic.   We forgeweld with it and it is an experience to see the
> process taking place before your eyes and having total control over it.
> Teaching someone to forge weld using the I. F. is light years ahead of 
> using
> 
> a coal or gas forge.  They can see the process taking place and you can
> explain what is going on and there is no thing between you preventing you
> from seeing everything that is going on.  The transition of the steel
being
> heated from magnetic to non magnetic is very dramatic and the I. F.
> indicates the transition very clearly.  We heat everything from 1/4" round
> to 1/4 x 2 1/2 so far in the I. F.   It is very quick.  30 seconds is a 
> long
> 
> time.  A lot happens in 5 or 8 seconds.   The heat is very localized and
> this permits certain forging operations to be done much easier than they
> have ever been done in the past, since the steel reacts in the restricted
> heated area and not in the unheated area, the area is heated so quickly 
> that
> 
> there is very little travel beyond the area under the coil.  We have not
> fully found out the limits and possibilities of the I. F.  as our jobs
have
> not taken us into enough varied areas.   What its limits are will be
> determined in time, but it is a fantastic tool and we enjoy finding out 
> what
> 
> it will do for us each day as we tackle that day's projects.   Like any
new
> tool, you have to think about it and determine if it has the 
> capabilities to
> 
> do that day's work.  So far we have found few times that it was unable 
> to do
> 
> the job better than and quicker than coal, gas, etc.  We solder with 
> it,  we
> 
> braze with it and of course forge weld with it, or maybe it is not called
> forge welding but magic.  As we test it further,  we will be happy to pass
> along our findings as I know Grant will and is.   The coils are very 
> easy to
> 
> make.  We use 3/16 and 1/4" copper tubing.  It is easy to form and we use
> the I. F. to solder it.  It is really done very quickly and reminds me,
for
> some strange reason, of making dies for the fly press.  Perhaps because 
> like
> 
> the fly press, without its dies or coils, it is useless and its
limitations
> are limited by what we dream up in the way of coils.   Sorry we are so
long
> winded, but as you can tell, we are very much enamered with I. F.    Where
> has it been all our lives.  It saved us a great deal of time and made our
> task easier so far and certainly a lot more fun.
> 
> Steve Kayne
> 
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