[TheForge] Induction Forge?

[Michael]

I don't agree completely. The idea of open ended engineering is sound. There
is also a place for multitasking machines, at least with hobbyists. It is
true that these examples (Shopsmith, etc.) go too far with it, though.
Mikey

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[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Frost
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 10:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [TheForge] Induction Forge?

Egglayingwoolmilkpig? I don't even want a picture! 
<grin> Great term.

We're on the same page regarding doitall machines. 
Something that does everything does nothing well.

While I don't know much about electricity I do 
understand there are different types in ways I don't 
grasp. What I do know is I already have a Lincoln 
Ranger 9, multi process welder that will indeed do most 
welding processes but requires modules or additional 
pieces to do some.

I was just thinking an electricity massaging unit might 
be an alternative.

Thanks,

Frosty
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From: "Ries Niemi" <rniemi at fidalgo.net>


>I am not a big fan of "all in one" designs for 
>anything- the combo brake/shear/rolls are garbage, the 
>lathe/milling machines are crap, the shopsmith is an 
>amusing idea that does nothing well-
> But the closest I come is my inverter welder- it will 
> run a mig wire feeder head, tig weld, or stick weld, 
> all better than the older, standalone machines I also 
> have.
>
> But, and its a big but- even though it all looks 
> alike- there are different types of electricity- and 
> what you need for welding- my tig inverter is usually 
> putting out 170 amps at 25 volts or so- is 
> drastically different than what you would need for a 
> induction forge. Cant remember Grants explanation of 
> the output, but its night and day from what a tig 
> welder puts out.
> It would be kinda like saying my lawnmower and my Cat 
> D9 are both powered by internal combustion engines, 
> so why not combine the functions of the two?
> Yes, it could probably be done- and it would do each 
> job worse, cost more, and have inherent design flaws 
> that are just about insurmountable.
>
> The germans have a word for this- they would call it 
> an "egglayingwoolmilkpig"-  something that tries to 
> do everything.
>
> I am all for buying an inverter power supply- but so 
> far, the only ones that both weld and plasma cut are 
> funky no name chinese imports- and they dont have 
> either Grant Sarver, or Kaynes standing behind them.
> I will buy a no name chinese induction forge from 
> Grant, but not from some guy on ebay who cant tell an 
> oscilloscope from a stethescope.
>
> My welders are either red or blue. They work, parts 
> are available, most are made in the USA- (all 
> millers, most lincolns).
>
> Experiments are fine for hor d'ourves- not for 
> welders.
>
> Ries
>
>

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