[TheForge] Induction Forge?

[Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer]

  Steve;
I've got to think that Lincoln isn't the company it used to be 
and corporate short term thinking has screwed it too.
Kinda hard on a customer's loyalty...Pete F

Steve Smith wrote:
> Pete, I don't understand how Lincoln can get away with that. Bad 
> craziness on their part.
> 
> Chips are pretty cheap to stockpile (for a manufacturer, I mean). 
> Running out/unavailable isn't a valid excuse, it is poor planning.
> 
> My two cents.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer wrote:
> 
>> Reis is right of course..i was just pipe dreaming again.
>> In fact, i have a sort of horror of buying any welding machine with 
>> modern electronics in it. Little teeny, fragile chips and big surging 
>> and sputtering electro-magnetic fields...what a combination!
>> How are we gonna get replacement chips for them when they are 20 years 
>> old?
>> The main PC card for my Lincoln Idealarc 250/250 is no longer 
>> available. It's my newest welding machine.The chips for many vehicles 
>> are no longer available. Look under the hood of so many machines and 
>> all there is to be seen is electronics and plastic.
>> Looks like the prelude to a disaster.
>> Another one.
>> Course when it happens, we'll be well positioned.
>> Only a few chips in my anvil.....Pete F
>>
>> Jerry Frost wrote:
>>
>>> Egglayingwoolmilkpig? I don't even want a picture! <grin> Great term.
>>>
>>> We're on the same page regarding doitall machines. Something that 
>>> does everything does nothing well.
>>>
>>> While I don't know much about electricity I do understand there are 
>>> different types in ways I don't grasp. What I do know is I already 
>>> have a Lincoln Ranger 9, multi process welder that will indeed do 
>>> most welding processes but requires modules or additional pieces to 
>>> do some.
>>>
>>> I was just thinking an electricity massaging unit might be an 
>>> alternative.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Frosty
>>> -------------------------------
>>> If it ain't forged
>>> it ain't real.
>>> Wrought iron is.
>>> The FrostWorks
>>>
>>> Meadow Lakes, AK.
>>>
>>> http://www.artmetalradio.com/
>>>
>>> From: "Ries Niemi" <rniemi at fidalgo.net>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am not a big fan of "all in one" designs for anything- the combo 
>>>> brake/shear/rolls are garbage, the lathe/milling machines are crap, 
>>>> the shopsmith is an amusing idea that does nothing well-
>>>> But the closest I come is my inverter welder- it will run a mig wire 
>>>> feeder head, tig weld, or stick weld, all better than the older, 
>>>> standalone machines I also have.
>>>>
>>>> But, and its a big but- even though it all looks alike- there are 
>>>> different types of electricity- and what you need for welding- my 
>>>> tig inverter is usually putting out 170 amps at 25 volts or so- is 
>>>> drastically different than what you would need for a induction 
>>>> forge. Cant remember Grants explanation of the output, but its night 
>>>> and day from what a tig welder puts out.
>>>> It would be kinda like saying my lawnmower and my Cat D9 are both 
>>>> powered by internal combustion engines, so why not combine the 
>>>> functions of the two?
>>>> Yes, it could probably be done- and it would do each job worse, cost 
>>>> more, and have inherent design flaws that are just about 
>>>> insurmountable.
>>>>
>>>> The germans have a word for this- they would call it an 
>>>> "egglayingwoolmilkpig"-  something that tries to do everything.
>>>>
>>>> I am all for buying an inverter power supply- but so far, the only 
>>>> ones that both weld and plasma cut are funky no name chinese 
>>>> imports- and they dont have either Grant Sarver, or Kaynes standing 
>>>> behind them.
>>>> I will buy a no name chinese induction forge from Grant, but not 
>>>> from some guy on ebay who cant tell an oscilloscope from a stethescope.
>>>>
>>>> My welders are either red or blue. They work, parts are available, 
>>>> most are made in the USA- (all millers, most lincolns).
>>>>
>>>> Experiments are fine for hor d'ourves- not for welders.
>>>>
>>>> Ries
>>>>
>>>>
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