[TheForge] Input wanted

Tue Oct 11 13:39:19 EDT 2005

Wondered about that whole bending thing. Could be worked around but
maybe more trouble than it's worth. I'll have to try it next year, when
I have my shop back and I can have an outside fire (boo hoo).

JRF (the theoretical blacksmith)

--- Chris Kilpatrick <crimsonkil at lycos.com> wrote:

> No, it will have a tendency to collapse.  Now you can make it stand
> by tightly engineering where the bipod meets the ridge pole, but that
> puts a lot of stress at that joint.  The best double bipod I have
> seen is in a period woodcut, where each leg of the bipod has a two
> tined fork at the end that is stuck in the ground.
> 
> -Crimson
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Justin Fellenz" <sunironworks at yahoo.com>
> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Input wanted
> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:23:09 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> > 
> > Sure, if the bipods are parallel to each other. But if you kick
> them
> > out (away from the fire) 20 degress or so and locate them so they
> can't
> > slide along the bar, it should stand, no?
> > 
> > JRF
> > 
> > --- Chris Kilpatrick <crimsonkil at lycos.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > You end wiith a polygon this way and it is always susceptible to
> > > collapse.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Justin Fellenz" <sunironworks at yahoo.com>
> > > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Input wanted
> > > Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 03:30:56 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > > > > Darrell,
> > > > > I wonder if you couldn't get away with just two legs on
> either end,
> > > > with a detent/hook/upset in the crossbar to locate the legs
> along
> > > the
> > > > bar...kick the ends out away from the fire and the whole setup
> > > should
> > > > lock in place, even on hard ground. You could suspend a firepan
> > > from
> > > > chains if you wanted to keep the coals off the ground.
> > > > > J
> > > > > > > --- Darrell <darrell at machinemaster.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Jerry,
> > > > >
> > > > > Four legs each with a loop in one end and a point on the
> other
> > > end.
> > > > > One spit
> > > > > that just fits through the loop on the legs.
> > > > > Slide the spit through the loops on all four legs and with
> two
> > > legs
> > > > > on each
> > > > > end, spread each pair to form a bipod and kick the ends out
> to
> > > put
> > > > > tension
> > > > > in opposite directions on the spit. If the surface doesn't
> allow
> > > the
> > > > > points
> > > > > to dig in, add a spreader chain to each leg pair to prevent
> them
> > > from
> > > > > spreading out to far.
> > > > > This would disassemble into a flat package for transport.
> > > > >
> > > > > Darrell
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Frost"
> > > <frosty at customcpu.com>
> > > > > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 10:48 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Input wanted
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Me again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I searched back through past posts and found the original
> > > thread
> > > > > and a pic
> > > > > > of a wood cut. The cooking setup being discussed wasn't a
> > > > > tripod/spit, it
> > > > > > was an "A" frame.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We were discussing the stability of "A" frames and
> potential
> > > trip
> > > > > hazards
> > > > > > with several people around it. A suggestion was made for
> using
> > > > > bi-pods
> > > > > > stabilized by the spit through spring tension and I had a
> > > > > visualization at
> > > > > > the time. A stable free standing cooking "A" frame being
> > > desirable
> > > > > as
> > > > > > there's no telling what kind of surface it'll be set up on
> so
> > > > > spiking it
> > > > > > down may not always be possible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll have to rethink the thing and see if I can track down
> my
> > > > > original
> > > > > > thoughts. No small feat seeing as how fast my head spins.
> > > <grin>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Frosty
> > > > > > ------------------------
> > > > > > If it ain't forged
> > > > > > it ain't real.
> > > > > > Wrought iron is.
> > > > > > The FrostWorks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Meadow Lakes, AK.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Frost"
> > > <frosty at customcpu.com>
> > > > > > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 6:06 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Input wanted
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks Darrell, that's almost exactly what I'm
> visualizing
> > > right
> > > > > now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't know if it's what Justin and I were talking about
> > > though,
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > getting the feeling it isn't but just don't recall. If it
> > > isn't
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > hoping
> > > > > > > for a memory jog, there are a couple other ways to do it
> and
> > > or
> > > > > similar
> > > > > > > thingies.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Frosty
> > > > > > > ------------------------
> > > > > > > If it ain't forged
> > > > > > > it ain't real.
> > > > > > > Wrought iron is.
> > > > > > > The FrostWorks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Meadow Lakes, AK.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: "Darrell" <darrell at machinemaster.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> You could take a look at how I do it.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> http://farwestforge.com/fireset.html
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Darrell
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
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