[TheForge] Input wanted

Tue Oct 11 13:13:59 EDT 2005

No, it will have a tendency to collapse.  Now you can make it stand by tightly engineering where the bipod meets the ridge pole, but that puts a lot of stress at that joint.  The best double bipod I have seen is in a period woodcut, where each leg of the bipod has a two tined fork at the end that is stuck in the ground.

-Crimson

----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Fellenz" <sunironworks at yahoo.com>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Input wanted
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:23:09 -0700 (PDT)

> 
> Sure, if the bipods are parallel to each other. But if you kick them
> out (away from the fire) 20 degress or so and locate them so they can't
> slide along the bar, it should stand, no?
> 
> JRF
> 
> --- Chris Kilpatrick <crimsonkil at lycos.com> wrote:
> 
> > You end wiith a polygon this way and it is always susceptible to
> > collapse.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Justin Fellenz" <sunironworks at yahoo.com>
> > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Input wanted
> > Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 03:30:56 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > > > Darrell,
> > > > I wonder if you couldn't get away with just two legs on either end,
> > > with a detent/hook/upset in the crossbar to locate the legs along
> > the
> > > bar...kick the ends out away from the fire and the whole setup
> > should
> > > lock in place, even on hard ground. You could suspend a firepan
> > from
> > > chains if you wanted to keep the coals off the ground.
> > > > J
> > > > > > --- Darrell <darrell at machinemaster.com> wrote:
> > > > > Jerry,
> > > >
> > > > Four legs each with a loop in one end and a point on the other
> > end.
> > > > One spit
> > > > that just fits through the loop on the legs.
> > > > Slide the spit through the loops on all four legs and with two
> > legs
> > > > on each
> > > > end, spread each pair to form a bipod and kick the ends out to
> > put
> > > > tension
> > > > in opposite directions on the spit. If the surface doesn't allow
> > the
> > > > points
> > > > to dig in, add a spreader chain to each leg pair to prevent them
> > from
> > > > spreading out to far.
> > > > This would disassemble into a flat package for transport.
> > > >
> > > > Darrell
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Frost"
> > <frosty at customcpu.com>
> > > > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 10:48 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Input wanted
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Me again.
> > > > >
> > > > > I searched back through past posts and found the original
> > thread
> > > > and a pic
> > > > > of a wood cut. The cooking setup being discussed wasn't a
> > > > tripod/spit, it
> > > > > was an "A" frame.
> > > > >
> > > > > We were discussing the stability of "A" frames and potential
> > trip
> > > > hazards
> > > > > with several people around it. A suggestion was made for using
> > > > bi-pods
> > > > > stabilized by the spit through spring tension and I had a
> > > > visualization at
> > > > > the time. A stable free standing cooking "A" frame being
> > desirable
> > > > as
> > > > > there's no telling what kind of surface it'll be set up on so
> > > > spiking it
> > > > > down may not always be possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll have to rethink the thing and see if I can track down my
> > > > original
> > > > > thoughts. No small feat seeing as how fast my head spins.
> > <grin>
> > > > >
> > > > > Frosty
> > > > > ------------------------
> > > > > If it ain't forged
> > > > > it ain't real.
> > > > > Wrought iron is.
> > > > > The FrostWorks
> > > > >
> > > > > Meadow Lakes, AK.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Frost"
> > <frosty at customcpu.com>
> > > > > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 6:06 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Input wanted
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Darrell, that's almost exactly what I'm visualizing
> > right
> > > > now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't know if it's what Justin and I were talking about
> > though,
> > > > I'm
> > > > > > getting the feeling it isn't but just don't recall. If it
> > isn't
> > > > I'm
> > > > hoping
> > > > > > for a memory jog, there are a couple other ways to do it and
> > or
> > > > similar
> > > > > > thingies.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Frosty
> > > > > > ------------------------
> > > > > > If it ain't forged
> > > > > > it ain't real.
> > > > > > Wrought iron is.
> > > > > > The FrostWorks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Meadow Lakes, AK.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: "Darrell" <darrell at machinemaster.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> You could take a look at how I do it.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> http://farwestforge.com/fireset.html
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Darrell
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
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