[TheForge] OT biodiesel

[Darrell]

The only problem that I see with nuclear power is that they want to build
them to big. Instead of building them big enough to supply power for several
states, build small ones like the navy does and put them where ever needed.
The small ones are confinable even if something goes wrong unlike the big
ones.

Darrell

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Justin Fellenz" <sunironworks at yahoo.com>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: [TheForge] OT biodiesel


> Yep. I brought it up because I want to get me and my family as
> independent from the Man as possible. The country is a big big problem,
> much bigger than I can handle--I spend my days now in a huge
> corporation working for the government, and all I can think of is
> unhitching myself from both in as many ways as possible as soon as
> possible, cause to me the big problem doesn't look fixable, not in my
> lifetime, certainly. Doesn't mean we should just give up, though--the
> discussions of nuclear and hydrogen power and so on are valuable and
> necessary and I am impressed as always that this group can go from
> talking about making tongs to making clean power even if things get a
> little out of scale in the process. It's folks who have their hands in
> the local realities of life and their heads in the big picture who
> might actually make things a little better for both. Like you, Dave, I
> doubt biodiesel is the big answer, same as I don't think everyone in
> the world can (mostly) live on wild meat and what they grow in their
> garden or heat with wood or make tools from scrap metal. But it's a
> small part of the answer, no?
>
> Justin.
>
>
> --- Dave Mudge <dave at magichammer.net> wrote:
> > I agree with you Bob, this thread went from heating your shop with
> > wood vs
> > propane to biodiesel to depleted uranium and it's many uses to help
> > mankind.
> > I think that many folks missed the point about biodiesel in the first
> > place.
> > I think that it is about small scale grass roots actions. One can
> > make their
> > own biodiesel to help save money and the environment at the same
> > time.
> > "Think globally, act locally"
> > I don't think that most folks think that biodiesel is a viable
> > replacement
> > for "commercial" diesel. I don't think that is the intention of the
> > folks
> > that are actually involved in the grass roots biodiesel movement.
> > I don't think that we should use nuclear generated electricity to
> > create
> > hydrogen fuel for a cleaner environment??? That sorta misses the
> > point of
> > having a cleaner environment in the first place. I like the idea of
> > hydrogen
> > as an alternative to gasoline, or hybrid fuel/electric vehicles. Most
> > of all
> > I don't like the idea of making bullets out of depleted uranium. If
> > the
> > bullet doesn't kill you the uranium will, and your kids, and their
> > kids and
> > their kids and their kids. Why don't we work on small scale ways of
> > making
> > fuel from water to run rural pumps to irrigate crops instead of even
> > more
> > horrible ways of killing one another?
> > That is my 2 cents worth.
> > I'll step down from the soap box now.
> >
> > dave mudge
> > dave at magichammer.net
> > http://www.magichammer.net
> > http://www.metalsmithinghowto.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> > [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> > schade at acegroup.cc
> > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 8:22 AM
> > To: Sponsored by ABANA
> > Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT biodiesel
> >
> >
> > On May 28, 2005, at 12:12 AM, Todd Rich wrote:
> > > Please don't GASFI.  Just becase you can find it on google doesn't
> > > mean it is correct.  Trying googling for 'time cube' if you want a
> > > blatant example.  Oh, and here is link for some useful info about
> > DU,
> > > which isn't really waste (and also includes the pill bottle/shoe
> > > box/gymnasium stats).
> > > http://www.kgoam810.com/viewentry.asp?ID=320110&PT=PERSONALITIES
> > >
> >
> >
> > What is GASFI?
> >
> > Just because you can find it on Google doesn't mean it's incorrect.
> >
> > Why would anyone google "time cube"? I mean what's the question?
> >
> > The issue of what to do with nuclear waste is not an issue of space.
> > Who cares how many shoe boxes it takes??
> >
> > The issue is the length of time the waste is hazardous.
> >
> > DU? Not on the current list of things that are good for you.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
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