[TheForge] Sorry to break in with a blacksmithing question
Keporter at aol.com
Keporter at aol.com
Sat Jun 18 18:20:23 EDT 2005
In a message dated 6/18/2005 3:05:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
davesmucker at hotmail.com writes:
Because he is using H13 it may not really matter which he does first. The
tempering temperature for the H13 is 1000 degree F. Still I would weld
first, then heat treat, then temper.
For the H13 you should preheat to at least 400 F, then make your welds.
Now heat treat the whole thing. For H13 you need to heat the die material
to 1850 F. This is well above the non-magnetic point. Get you hands on a
temperature vs. color chart and use that to gauge temperature, assuming you
do not have a heat treat furnace. Heat SLOWLY as you bring the die up to
temperature. Handbooks say to hold a temperature for 30 minutes per inch of
thickness. You can short this some but don't be in a big hurry. Now remove
the die from the forge and AIR quench it. That is set it on the side of the
forge and let it air cool. When it gets down to where you can touch it
temper it right away. (Don't wait over night.)
Now temper. Reheat the die to 1000 F. In very dull light (almost dark) it
will just start to glow a dark red at this temperature. For this tempering
I use a torch -- and heat slowly. Let air cool. In industry we would
temper a second time, but you can get away without this. You die should be
about a Rockwell C of 51 to 54.
Hot metal will not draw these dies. We used H13 and H11 type alloys for hot
mill rolls and could get their temperature up to 1000 F and not have any
problems.
Dave Smucker
That was such a good description I'm tempted to build something just for the
fun of following it. This will go into my files until I find a project for
it. If it makes its way into a book I'll give you credit for it, Dave
("...following directions first mentioned by Dave Smuker, I blah, blah, etc., etc.).
Mike P.
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